Response to Bill Moyers on 9/11 Truth
February 16, 2011
Author: Jon Gold
Source:
9/11 Truth News
Category:
HIT PIECES
I’d first like to say that I respect both Bill Moyers and Robert Parry, even though I thoroughly disagree with them about their stance on the cover-up of 9/11. Bill Moyers documentary entitled “
The Secret Government: The Constitution In Crisis,” and Robert Parry’s work on the
Iran Contra Affair are excellent.
I have little doubt that over the years, Bill Moyers and Robert Parry have received a multitude of emails from people demanding they give attention to the cover-up of 9/11. I have little doubt that a large majority of those emails talked about “crazy” theories, or made accusations of them for not covering certain issues. Unfortunately, there are people in the 9/11 Truth Movement who do these things. I, myself, have been known to write a nastygram on occasion.
However, it is well known and said by many that after the 9/11 attacks, the media in this country did not do it’s job. Dan Rather said on May 17, 2002, “there was a time in South Africa that people would put flaming tires around people’s necks if they dissented. And in some ways the fear is that you will be necklaced here, you will have a flaming tire of lack of patriotism put around your neck. Now it is that fear that keeps journalists from asking the toughest of the tough questions.” On
April 25, 2007, Dan Rather told Bill Moyers that “there’s no question that we didn’t do a good job. We weren’t smart enough, we weren’t alert enough, we didn’t dig enough, and, we shouldn’t have been fooled in this way.” Helen Thomas was adamant about the
media’s failure after 9/11. “They (the media) rolled over and played dead.”
Here is just one example of too many to mention of the media not doing it’s job.
On January 31st, two acts of civil disobedience for 9/11 Justice were committed in front of the
White House and
10 Downing Street respectively.
Not one news outlet reported on it. Even a news outlet that promised me they would report on it, did not. The excuse given to me was that Egypt’s revolution was more important.
On that same day, the September Eleventh Advocates
released a statement pertaining to 9/11 Whistleblower Berhrooz Sarshar. This statement asked, “that the transcript of Mr. Sarshar’s interview be immediately declassified,” and that they respectfully request, “that the former Chairman, Governor Thomas Kean, Vice-Chairman, Mr. Lee Hamilton and the Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission, Mr. Philip Zelikow, promptly answer the questions herein.”
Neither Thomas Kean, Lee Hamilton, or Philip Zelikow responded. As a result of their refusal to respond, 9/11 Whistleblower Sibel Edmonds
released a transcript of one of the times Berhrooz Sarshar testified. This transcript speaks of foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks, and an order from above to disregard any knowledge of it.
Not one news outlet reported on it.
9/11 was the event that created the “Post-9/11 World.” If any information comes out that says we were lied to about that day, then that is essential, newsworthy information. Period. For some reason, our media doesn’t agree with me.
It is the media’s job to make sure citizens’ are aware of what’s going on in their country, and in the world. It is absolutely essential that we are an informed citizenry because if we aren’t, then we pay a huge price.
With that in mind, can you blame advocates for 9/11 Justice for getting angry with the media for not covering the obvious problems with the “official account” of 9/11? Bill Moyers says the facts still matter. I agree, and that’s why I wrote an article entitled
The Facts Speak For Themselves. You may agree or disagree with some of the content in that article. However, I challenge you to tell me after reading it that it isn’t absolutely imperative to have a real investigation into the 9/11 attacks, the event that created the “
Post-9/11 World.”
Click Here To Read Bill Moyers Attack Against Advocates For 9/11 Justice.
Response from
Pat Curley of the
Screw Loose Change blog:
Response from Jon Gold:
Pat Curley, the "debunker" is trying to say that I think one man chaining himself to the White House fence for 9/11 Justice is more important than the revolution in Egypt because in my response to Bill Moyers, I mentioned that "even a news outlet that promised me they would report on it, did not. The excuse given to me was that Egypt’s revolution was more important." No Pat, I do not think that. I do think though, as I said in my response to Moyers that, "9/11 was the event that created the "Post-9/11 World." If any information comes out that says we were lied to about that day, then that is essential, newsworthy information." I have little doubt that the news outlet in question did report on less important information than the lies about 9/11 at the same time the Revolution in Egypt was happening.
Bill Moyers’ Attack on 9/11 Truth Exposes Defense Mechanisms in Full Force
Written by Gregg Roberts
ae911truth.org
Denial, Projection, and Reaction Formation Taint Otherwise Perceptive Remarks by Johnson Administration Press Secretary
On January 27, respected journalist Bill Moyers made
a keynote speech to History Makers, described as “an organization of broadcasters and producers from around the world concerned with the challenges and opportunities faced by factual broadcasting.” Moyers made many comments with which we can all agree. Yes, “the struggle against power ‘is the struggle of memory against forgetting.’” Yes, we would all like to see more “television ‘that dignifies instead of debases’.” Yes, we would all like to see less demagoguery. And like Moyers we are discouraged by the
new research findings indicating that people whose minds are made up harden their positions even further in the face of contrary information, “twist[ing] facts so they fit better with our preconceived notions.”.
However, anyone acquainted with the vast body of evidence indicating that the three World Trade Center skyscrapers were demolished by explosive controlled demolition on 9/11 would be dismayed by some of Moyers’ comments about that historic event. Rather than honoring the efforts of 9/11 researchers and activists to get our government and media to acknowledge well-documented facts about 9/11, Moyers engaged in what can easily be described as an uninformed diatribe.
Moyers’ dismissive and exaggerated way of framing the issue shows that he has zero awareness of the factual problems and internal contradictions in the official story. He falsely associates questioning 9/11 or believing it was an inside job with being on the political Left. In fact, on the contrary, an honest awareness of the problems in the official account of 9/11 unites people fairly equally from all across the political spectrum, from atheistic democratic socialists to Christian libertarians.
Moyers offers a superficial laundry list of alleged flaws in the case against the official account of 9/11, a list which he admits was taken from a recent single opinion column by journalist Robert Parry, whose criticisms have been responded to by Kevin Ryan (among other things, a member of the AE911Truth board of directors) Following are several examples of the purest projection. Each of these criticisms by Moyers are either false or misleading. The first two apply not to the 9/11 truth movement but to the official account:
Moyers’ Accusation Against 9/11 Truth Activists
‘“The truthers” threw out all the evidence of al-Qaeda’s involvement’
What the Evidence Actually Shows
The FBI does not list even bin Laden as “wanted” for 9/11, and has explained that this is because there is “
no hard evidence” connecting him or any of the hijackers to the attacks
Moyers’ Accusation Against 9/11 Truth Activists
‘Using long lists of supposed evidence to overcome the lack of any real evidence’
What the Evidence Actually Shows
The NIST Reports on the destruction of towers 1, 2, and 7 take up approximately 11,500 pages, while avoiding even discussing most of the evidence for explosive controlled demolition
David Ray Griffin has identified more than 100
omissions and distortions in the 9/11 Commission report, calling it “a 571-page lie”
More than half of the Commissioners themselves have expressed
serious doubts about the
veracity and completeness of their own report, and the Commission’s own general counsel
wrote a book outlining various flaws, including the existence of a secret document that expressed the Commission’s predetermined conclusions
Moyers’ Accusation Against 9/11 Truth Activists
‘These truthers [are] on the left’
What the Evidence Actually Shows
A number of prominent people on the political right or what might be termed the enlightened center have joined in the call for a new, legitimate investigation, such as economist
Paul Craig Roberts (Assistant Secretary of the Treasury under President Reagan), Vietnam fighter pilot and presidential candidate
LtCol Bob Bowman (former Director of Advanced Space Programs Development for the U.S. Air Force in the Ford and Carter administrations), and many others
As AE911Truth and others have been documenting for years, the official story ignores dozens of damning facts which have persuaded more than 1,400 architects and engineers and more than 11,000 other citizens to sign their real names to a public petition calling for an investigation of the total near free-fall destruction of all three skyscrapers on 9/11, risking public ridicule and harm to their careers. These facts are summarized in the right-hand column of our home page at AE911Truth.org. They boil down further as follows:
•The
energy expended in the destruction far exceeded what was available in the gravitational potential of the three WTC skyscrapers
•The destruction was
too symmetrical to have been unassisted by explosives
•The destruction involved
extremely high temperatures that produced molten iron or steel; this cannot be accounted for by office fires or jet fuel
•WTC 7’
freefall collapse, acknowledged by NIST, required explosives
•There is forensic
evidence of unignited engineered energetic materials left over throughout the WTC dust
In his speech, Moyers also said:
“Many people inhabit a closed belief system on whose door they have hung the “Do Not Disturb” sign, that they pick and choose only those facts that will serve as building blocks for walling them off from uncomfortable truths.”
We could hardly have said it better ourselves.
Bill Moyers Bashes 9/11 Truth, Yet Still Says That Facts Matter
By Saman Mohammadi
opednews.com
Former PBS broadcaster Bill Moyers, with all his influence and prestige, publicly derided 9/11 truth activists, and supported the official myth in a speech he gave in New York on January 27, 2011.
Of all people, Moyers should know the power of myths in human society, and that a myth is not the truth. “Myths are public dreams,” said Joseph Campbell. In America, where tricksters and thieves have total government power in their hands, and rule over the public mind with propaganda and other techniques of collective brainwashing, the only truth that is allowed to be expressed is their truth. What they say is real becomes reality itself; what they dream behind closed doors becomes lived experience. They did 9/11, and they’re still free almost ten years later because journalists have not fully questioned the events of that day. Since 9/11 the American people, and people across the planet, have lived not in a public dream but in a public nightmare. And we have the tricksters and traitors in Washington to thank.
It takes patience, and a “readiness to own thyself mistaken,” as Thomas Carlyle said, to dig through the facts and evidence before arriving at the truth of what really happened on September 11, 2001. I thought Moyers would be more open-minded and sympathetic, but he’s made an ignorant judgment about the movement for 9/11 truth and accountability. I feel let down because I admired Moyers. It turns out most journalists can’t handle the truth about 9/11. Oh well. I have new heroes now: Paul Craig Roberts, William Cooper, David Ray Griffin, Alex Jones, Richard Gage, Bob McIlvaine, the list is endless. I hope Moyers rejoins the list in the future.
Although I understand that people deny a painful truth because it undermines their core beliefs about the world, and damages their self-esteem, I’m still surprised that intelligent and genuinely independent-minded individuals can’t accept the fact that the Bush administration completely lied about 9/11. Our supposedly best journalists and reporters, who constantly talk about democracy, free speech, and the need to resist power, and who endlessly quote Orwell, are not only nowhere to be found when it comes to speaking the truth about 9/11, but they arrogantly mock the individuals who are simply asking for a new investigation.
Like other prominent journalists and reporters, Chris Hedges and Robert Parry among them, Moyers is shockingly dismissive of the evidence that undercuts the official story about 9/11 which has been painstakingly gathered by 9/11 truth activists, professional architects and engineers, citizen journalists, and regular individuals.
In a
speech given at a convention held by
History Makers in New York on January 27, 2011, Moyers said that the 9/11 truth movement is not based on the truth but disinformation and conspiracy theories. He ignorantly refers to 9/11 truth activists as “truthers.” Here is an excerpt from the speech:
Disinformation is not unique to the right, of course. Like other journalists, I have been the object of malevolent assaults from the “9/11 truthers” for not reporting their airtight case proving that the Bush administration conspired to bring about the attacks on the World Trade Center. How did they discover this conspiracy? As the independent journalist Robert Parry has written, “the truthers” threw out all the evidence of al-Qaeda’s involvement, from contemporaneous calls from hijack victims on the planes to confessions from al-Qaeda leaders both in and out of captivity that they had indeed done it. Then, recycling some of the right’s sophistry techniques, such as using long lists of supposed evidence to overcome the lack of any real evidence, the “truthers” cherry-picked a few supposed “anomalies” to build an “inside-job” story line. Fortunately, this Big Lie never took hold in the public mind. These truthers on the left, if that is where GPS can find them on the political map, are outgunned, outmatched and outshouted by the media apparatus on the right that pounds the public like drone missiles loaded with conspiracy theories and disinformation and accompanied by armadas of outright lies.
George Orwell had warned six decades ago that the corrosion of language goes hand in hand with the corruption of democracy. If he were around today, he would remind us that “like the rattling of a stick inside a swill bucket,” this kind of propaganda engenders a “protective stupidity” almost impossible for facts to penetrate.
But you, my colleagues, can’t give up. If you do, there’s no chance any public memory of everyday truths – the tangible, touchable, palpable realities so vital to democracy – will survive. We would be left to the mercy of the agitated amnesiacs who “make” their own reality, as one of them boasted at the time America invaded Iraq, in order to maintain their hold on the public mind and the levers of power. You will remember that in Orwell’s novel “1984,” Big Brother banishes history to the memory hole, where inconvenient facts simply disappear. Control of the present rests on obliteration of the past. The figure of O’Brien, who is the personification of Big Brother, says to the protagonist, Winston Smith: “We shall squeeze you empty and then we shall fill you with ourselves.” And they do. The bureaucrats in the Ministry of Truth destroy the records of the past and publish new versions. These in turn are superseded by yet more revisions. Why? Because people without memory are at the mercy of the powers that be; there is nothing against which to measure what they are told today. History is obliterated.
By quoting Orwell, you would think that Moyers would understand that using the labels “conspiracy theories” and “9/11 truthers” to bat away and delegitimize other human beings represents “the corrosion of language” that Orwell warned about. How did the label “conspiracy theory” enter the popular lexicon in the first place, anyway? It surely benefits the war criminals in power in Washington when journalists like Moyers and Parry use the label “conspiracy theorist” to put down activists and stand beside the official lie that Al-Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden carried out the 9/11 attacks. It seems like Moyers, Parry, and other journalists are putting themselves inside a bubble of “protective stupidity,” making it “almost impossible for facts to penetrate.”
Has Moyers watched the collapse of
Building 7? Has he read the books on 9/11 by David Ray Griffin? Has he interviewed Richard Gage of Architects And Engineers For 9/11 Truth? What kind of research has he done on the subject? Or is he just talking out of his ass?
If Orwell were alive today, he would not mock 9/11 truth, but research all the evidence, and then let it all hang out.
Saman "Truth Excavator" Mohammadi is a blogger and a full-time university student, currently living in Toronto, Canada. His blog is The Excavator -
http://disquietreservations.blogspot.com.
