Wednesday, December 31, 7000

Permanent Top Post by JM Talboo and Steve W.



By JM Talboo and Steve W.

http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2008/10/debunking-myths-on-conspiracy-theories.htmlMany people subconsciously make the mistake of only seeing the issues concerning 9/11 in black and white, as opposed to shades of gray. This is known as the black-or-white fallacy. In this case, the false dilemma is: 9/11 was either carried out by Al-Qaeda or it was "an inside job."

Just because the evidence suggests that rogue elements of the US government and intelligence apparatus, as well as other international intelligence agencies, were involved, doesn't mean bin Laden and Al-Qaeda hijackers weren't involved.

In the fight to uncover the truth about 9/11 we must contend with individuals and groups that distort, omit and lie about important details in order to defend the official narrative - the 911 truth debunkers.

 

The NORAD-stand-down, various whistleblowers ("debunkers" just assert they are all confused lying with no basis), and peer-reviewed studies of the physical evidence centered around the destruction of the 3 World Trade Center Buildings in New York, make a strong case that the attacks involved substantial inside help.

“I think it’s implausible to believe that 19 people, most of whom didn’t speak English, most of whom had never been in the United States before, many didn’t have a high school education, could have carried out such a complicated task without some support from within the United States”
Former Sen. Bob Graham on 60-Minutes 



We might be wrong about where we suspect this all leads, but the "debunkers" are wrong when many essentially argue that it's acceptable for 70% of 9/11 family members questions to have never been answered by the 9/11 Commission. So of course, most have no qualms about promises made to 9/11 family members being broken by the Commission to investigate all whistleblower claims, which a substantial amount of the public find highly-suspicious at minimum, with many regarding the evidence as suggestive of complicity to varied degrees.

The below link proves that many thousands of family members want a new investigation. Likely the amount of people killed that day is outnumbered by these 9/11 victim's family members.






Truth Teller's Radio Episode 16 - 9/11/2018 JM Talboo Interviews Richard Gage about the 3000+ Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth:

http://truthtellersradio.blogspot.com/2018/09/truth-tellers-radio-episode-16-9112018.html


Are there more problems with the UAF/Hulsey/AE911Truth WTC7 Draft Report or the NIST WTC 7 Report? You Decide...

http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2019/09/are-there-more-problems-with.html

Firefighters for 9/11 Truth Tribute Page:

http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2014/03/firefighters-for-911-truth-tribute-page.html

 


         

Unsurprisingly, the duh-bunk-turds hate even the best of the "Loose Change" films, but loose ends are no biggie.

The Washington Post reported on August 2, 2006 that:
Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources... "We to this day don't know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us," said Thomas H. Kean, the former New Jersey Republican governor who led the commission. 'It was just so far from the truth. . . . It's one of those loose ends that never got tied."
So, if 9/11 didn't have an inside element, what's to stop such a scenario from taking place in the future when we get investigations that have attributes like these? 

It is therefore the purpose of this website to rebut the hollow claims of the so-called 911 truth "debunkers" and clarify what is known about the attacks for the benefit of those following the debate and also for the largely uninformed public. This site now features 9/11 truth related and not-so-related content. So please utilize our search feature (found also on the sidebar) to find a massive treasure trove of well-researched info on nearly every issue in the realm of 9/11 truth debate. 

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Monday, September 14, 2026

The Soundtrack of Revolution: Q50, Tupac, Drill Rap and Following the Breadcrumbs

The Soundtrack of Revolution: Q50, Tupac, Drill Rap and Following the Breadcrumbs

Q50, Tupac and the Question I Asked

JM Talboo DebunkerBusters.blogspot.com

If you don't know who BloodHound Q50 was, here's the short version.

Q50, whose reported real name was Mikquale Cooper, was a 22-year-old Chicago drill rapper associated with the Bloodhound camp and the wider Chicago drill scene. He was also closely connected to the late Bloodhound Lil Jeff, who was killed in 2024.

On September 13, 2026, Q50 was shot and killed in Chicago's Fuller Park neighborhood.

According to police information reported by multiple outlets, Q50 was sitting inside a vehicle when two vehicles approached and multiple people opened fire. He was struck in the chest and shoulder and pronounced dead at the scene. Police have not announced an arrest or established a motive publicly.

And here's where this gets weird.

September 13 is also the date Tupac Shakur died in 1996.

Thirty years apart.

By itself?

That's a coincidence.

Nothing more.

But there was another piece that caught my attention.

Q50 had recently discussed Tupac in an interview with Vlad.

And Vlad—not Q50—was the one who brought up Tupac's repeated references to death.

That does not mean Q50 predicted his own death.

It does not mean he knew he was going to die.

It does not mean somebody told him he was going to die.

It does not mean an intelligence agency had anything whatsoever to do with his death.

But considering what happened afterward, the timing is undeniably eerie.

Then there's another detail.

Q50 had previously posted lyrics from Tupac's “Last MFer Breathin'”:

“Woke up with 50 enemies plottin' my death / All 50 seeing visions of me shot in the chest”

Then Q50 was shot and killed.

Again, that doesn't prove foreknowledge.

It doesn't prove a conspiracy.

It doesn't prove an intelligence operation.

It doesn't even prove that the lyric had anything whatsoever to do with what eventually happened.

But it's a breadcrumb.

And I made a comment about it.

The question I raised was essentially this:

Does the intelligence apparatus ever provide information about people's locations when somebody wants them gone?

I also made it clear that I could simply be tripping.

Maybe these are just bizarre coincidences.

That's entirely possible.

And that's actually why I'm writing this.

Because I've been down this particular rabbit hole before.

And when something like this happens, I don't think the correct response is automatically:

“CONSPIRACY! CASE CLOSED!”

But I also don't think the correct response is automatically:

“Nothing to see here. Don't ask questions.”

There is a middle ground.

Investigate.

Follow the breadcrumbs.

And distinguish what we know from what we merely suspect.


Who Q50 Was Matters

Q50 wasn't some random celebrity whose name appeared out of nowhere yesterday.

He came out of the Chicago drill ecosystem, a musical environment that has become internationally influential while also being closely associated with real-world violence, rivalries, death and incarceration.

Q50 was part of a generation of artists whose music frequently blurred the line between describing street violence, celebrating it, documenting it and potentially participating in it.

His connection to Lil Jeff is particularly relevant.

Lil Jeff was killed in 2024.

Q50 survived an earlier reported shooting incident in St. Louis in 2025.

He continued making music.

He continued building his profile.

And now he is dead at 22.

That's tragic regardless of anybody's theories about drill music, gangs, intelligence agencies or anything else.

A young man is dead.

His family is grieving.

His friends are grieving.

And another chapter has been added to the extraordinarily violent history surrounding Chicago drill.

That alone is worth talking about.

But the timing brought another set of questions back to the surface for me.

And those questions go back much further than Q50.


I've Been Asking Questions About Music and Power for a Long Time

Long before the recent questions surrounding Q50, Lil Durk, Tupac, drill music and intelligence agencies, I wrote and recorded a song called:

“The Soundtrack of Revolution.”

The surviving song:

The Soundtrack of Revolution — surviving song/video

I wrote it because I was interested in what happens when revolutionary music becomes commercialized.

What happens when music that once challenged authority becomes an enormous commercial industry?

What happens when rebellion becomes a product?

What happens when an art form capable of inspiring people to question power becomes something that can be packaged, marketed, monetized and sold?

Those questions haven't gone away.

If anything, there is more material available today to examine.

And recent events involving Q50 have given me another reason to revisit them.


I'm Not Saying the CIA Created Drill

Let's get something out of the way immediately.

I'm not claiming that the CIA created drill rap.

I'm not claiming that Q50 was an intelligence asset.

I'm not claiming that Q50 was killed by an intelligence agency.

I'm not claiming that Tupac was definitely an intelligence asset.

I'm not claiming that Lil Durk was targeted because he made positive music.

And I'm not claiming that every violent rapper is some kind of government pawn.

Those would be enormous claims.

They require enormous evidence.

What I'm asking is considerably more modest:

Can powerful institutions influence culture?

The answer to that question is obviously yes.

We don't have to speculate about whether governments understand the power of culture.

They've told us themselves.


Governments Have Used Music as a Tool of Influence

During the Cold War, the United States used musicians and cultural figures as part of international cultural diplomacy.

Jazz musicians traveled internationally as American cultural representatives.

American popular music became an important cultural export.

Eventually hip-hop became part of the same broader cultural-diplomacy apparatus.

The State Department has openly described music diplomacy as a tool of international engagement and has operated programs involving hip-hop artists.

That doesn't prove the government created hip-hop.

It proves something much simpler:

Government institutions understand that music influences people.

And they deliberately use music because of that influence.


The CIA's Cultural Operations Are Not a Theory

Here's where the historical record gets much more interesting.

The Congress for Cultural Freedom was a major Cold War cultural organization that promoted Western intellectual and artistic culture in opposition to Soviet influence.

And this isn't something I have to prove through a random conspiracy website.

The CIA itself has published a historical account of the operation.

CIA historian Michael Warner describes the Congress for Cultural Freedom as one of the agency's major Cold War covert operations. The organization published journals, sponsored conferences and brought together prominent intellectuals and artists.

CIA records explain that the agency helped establish and fund the organization and that the operation continued for years before its CIA sponsorship became publicly known.

That's important.

Because it establishes a historical fact:

The CIA has secretly used cultural and intellectual organizations as instruments of geopolitical influence.

That does not prove that the CIA controls modern rap.

It does not prove that drill was created by intelligence agencies.

But it destroys the argument that covert cultural influence is inherently impossible or unprecedented.

It's documented history.


And Then There's the CIA's Relationship With Journalists

This is another historical breadcrumb worth preserving.

In the 1970s, congressional investigations examined CIA relationships with journalists and news organizations.

Contemporary reporting based on congressional inquiries stated that approximately 40 people working as journalists around the world had been on the CIA payroll, including individuals connected with major news organizations.

The CIA subsequently adopted a 1976 policy prohibiting paid or contractual relationships with accredited U.S. news correspondents, while continuing to accept voluntarily provided information.

Again, this doesn't mean:

“Every journalist is CIA.”

Obviously not.

It means something narrower and historically important:

There were documented relationships between the CIA and members of the media, and Congress investigated them seriously enough that the CIA changed its policy.

That's a fact.

And facts like that matter when we're trying to understand how information environments can be influenced.


JFK: Where the Rabbit Hole Gets Much Deeper

This is one of the reasons I added the JFK material to this article.

The Kennedy assassination isn't simply an internet conspiracy theory that appeared on social media.

The U.S. government itself eventually declassified enormous quantities of records concerning the assassination.

And those records contain material involving intelligence operations, assassination planning, propaganda, covert action, Cuba and relationships with journalists and other institutions.

One of the most famous examples is Operation Northwoods.

Documents concerning the proposal describe plans considered within the U.S. military establishment involving fabricated or staged incidents that could be blamed on Cuba, including proposals involving attacks in Miami and elsewhere.

The important point isn't:

“Operation Northwoods proves the CIA killed Kennedy.”

It doesn't.

The point is:

Senior U.S. officials really did consider extraordinarily deceptive covert-action scenarios.

That's documented.

And that's precisely why historical documents matter more than blanket assumptions about what governments would or wouldn't do.

The JFK files also contain material concerning CIA plans against Fidel Castro and covert operations surrounding Cuba.

Some of those documents are genuinely disturbing.

But once again, we have to separate categories.

A plan is not the same thing as an executed operation.

A proposed operation is not proof that the proposal was carried out.

And evidence that an agency was capable of considering something does not establish that it did something else.

That's the discipline I want to maintain throughout this article.


The “Second Gunman” Question

Some of the material surrounding the JFK files has been presented in sensational terms as evidence of a second gunman.

That's where I want to be especially careful.

The existence of suspicious documents, intelligence contacts, conflicting testimony or assassination plots against Castro does not automatically prove that there was a second shooter in Dealey Plaza.

Likewise, evidence that people inside the government contemplated covert operations does not automatically prove that the Kennedy assassination itself was a government operation.

But the opposite argument is also too simplistic.

You cannot reasonably argue:

“The government would never consider something like that.”

We know that government officials considered things that sound unbelievable today.

The documents demonstrate that.

So the proper response isn't blind belief.

It's investigation.


The JFK Material I Was Already Collecting

I've spent years collecting and writing about these questions.

Some of my older JFK material includes:

“More JFK Files Revelations: CIA Employed 40 Journalists, KGB In Possession of Data Indicating LBJ Killed JFK — LBJ Admin Official: ‘We Can Convince the Public Oswald is the Real Assassin’ — FBI Informant: J.D. Tippit was the REAL Assassin.”

That title contains multiple claims.

Some are allegations.

Some concern statements attributed to historical figures.

Some involve interpretations of intelligence records.

The important thing is to go back to the underlying documentation rather than treating the headline as established fact.

More JFK Files Revelations — 911Debunkers

I also wrote:

It Is NOT a Mystery in a Conspiracy Scenario as to Who Killed JFK, We Know Exactly Who Did It

And:

Truth Teller's Radio Episode 10 — JFK Document Dump

And I wrote a response to the documentary JFK: The Smoking Gun:

Debunking “JFK: The Smoking Gun” — A Response to Questions About the Film

I also wrote:

Proof of JFK Assassination Plot Without Debating a Magic Bullet

Again, the point isn't that every conclusion in those pieces should automatically be accepted.

The point is that these are questions I've been investigating for a long time.


Why JFK Matters to the Q50 Question

You might be wondering:

What the hell does JFK have to do with a Chicago drill rapper?

At first glance, nothing.

But that's not actually the connection I'm making.

I'm not saying Q50's death is somehow the modern equivalent of JFK.

I'm not saying the CIA killed JFK and then moved on to killing rappers.

That's not an argument.

The connection is institutional history.

If we want to understand whether powerful institutions can influence culture, manipulate information, conduct covert operations or conceal relationships, we have to examine historical cases where those things are documented.

JFK gives us one set of records.

The Cold War cultural operations give us another.

The journalist relationships give us another.

And 9/11 provides another enormous body of material.


9/11 and Curt Weldon's Questions

This is where former Congressman Curt Weldon enters the story.

Weldon became one of the most outspoken congressional critics of how the government handled information concerning the September 11 attacks.

His central issue was Able Danger, a Defense Department intelligence program.

Weldon argued that Able Danger had identified Mohamed Atta and other future hijackers before 9/11 and that information was prevented from reaching the FBI or other investigators.

Weldon also argued that the 9/11 Commission failed to adequately investigate the matter.

Those are serious claims.

And they're not something I want to present as established fact without qualification.

Weldon himself has repeatedly made those allegations and has published his account of the controversy.

But the story also has an important counterpoint.

The 9/11 Commission staff members involved disputed the claim that Atta had been identified in the way Weldon and others described.

The Pentagon investigated and reported that it found no documentary evidence supporting the allegation that Able Danger had identified Mohamed Atta as an al-Qaeda operative before the attacks.

So here's the responsible way to present it:

Weldon made the allegation. Other witnesses supported parts of his account. The 9/11 Commission and Pentagon disputed the central claim, and documentary confirmation has remained contested.

That's much more interesting than pretending the controversy doesn't exist.

And it brings us to the second source I wanted to add.

In September 2026, Weldon is again publicly discussing these issues, including his book Able Danger: What the 9/11 Commission Never Told You.

His recent interview with Jimmy Dore revisits his allegations concerning Able Danger, intelligence warnings, the 9/11 Commission and the destruction or disappearance of intelligence data.

Jimmy Dore — “U.S. Officials ‘Planned 9/11 & Terrorists Were on CIA Payroll!’ — Ex-Congressman Curt Weldon”

The title makes claims much stronger than the underlying evidence establishes.

So I would not use the title as proof that U.S. officials planned 9/11.

But I would absolutely use the interview as evidence that a former member of Congress continues to make these allegations and that the Able Danger controversy remains part of the historical debate.

Those are different things.


And Then Something Important Happened in 2026

There's another reason the 9/11 material is especially relevant right now.

As the 25th anniversary approaches, newly declassified CIA documents are providing additional information about what U.S. intelligence knew about Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda before the attacks.

Recent reporting on the documents says they include warnings dating back years before September 2001, including warnings about possible attacks inside the United States and even scenarios involving aircraft.

That doesn't prove that American officials planned the attacks.

It demonstrates something different:

American intelligence agencies had substantial warning information about the threat posed by al-Qaeda, yet the government failed to prevent the attacks.

That's a major historical fact.

And it creates legitimate questions about intelligence failures, interagency communication, institutional responsibility and what decision-makers knew.

Those questions should not automatically be converted into a conclusion that the government orchestrated 9/11.

But neither should they be dismissed simply because some people have proposed more radical explanations.


The Difference Between “Knew” and “Caused”

This distinction is crucial.

An agency can know something without causing it.

An agency can have information without understanding its significance.

An agency can fail to act.

An agency can mishandle information.

An agency can protect sources.

An agency can conceal embarrassing mistakes.

An agency can deliberately conduct an operation.

Those are completely different propositions.

So when I ask whether an intelligence agency could theoretically know where someone was, I'm not saying:

“Therefore the agency killed Q50.”

That's a giant leap.

I'm saying:

Intelligence agencies collect information.

That's their job.

The historical question is how that information is acquired, shared, withheld and sometimes used.


The CIA-and-Drill Theory

This is where people start making much stronger claims.

Comedian Kurt Metzger has publicly discussed a theory that the CIA helped create or influence drill rap.

His appearance on The Danny Brown Show was titled:

“Did The CIA Invent Drill Rap? w/ Kurt Metzger.”

The Danny Brown Show — “Did The CIA Invent Drill Rap? w/ Kurt Metzger”

I'm not presenting Metzger's theory as established fact.

I'm including it because it represents one explicit version of the hypothesis.

The theory goes much further than saying the music industry has economic incentives.

It suggests intelligence interests could potentially cultivate or steer musical trends because of their effects on young people and communities.

That's a serious allegation.

And serious allegations require serious evidence.

But there is another reason I find the theory interesting.

People sometimes hear something like this and immediately translate it into:

“So you're saying every drill rapper is a CIA agent?”

No.

That's not what would have to be true.

If an influence operation existed, the people participating in it wouldn't necessarily have to know about it.

Some could know everything.

Some could know a little.

Some could simply be pursuing money.

Some could be pursuing fame.

Some could be pursuing revenge.

Some could be criminals.

Some could be victims.

Some could be useful to somebody else's agenda without ever knowing it.

And some could simply be artists making music.

That's a hypothetical model, not proof that such a model explains drill music.


Three Different Claims

This distinction is extremely important.

Claim One:

Governments use music for diplomacy and influence.

Documented.

Claim Two:

Intelligence agencies have historically conducted covert cultural influence operations.

Documented.

Claim Three:

The CIA secretly created or controls modern American drill rap.

Not established by the evidence presented here.

Those are three completely different statements.

The first two make the third worth investigating.

They do not prove it.


Ice Cube Asked a Related Question

Ice Cube has publicly questioned relationships between the music business and the prison industry.

In an interview with Bill Maher, Cube discussed what he considered suspicious relationships involving people connected to entertainment and investments associated with prisons.

Whether every specific relationship implied by that discussion is accurate is a separate question.

But the larger economic question is legitimate:

Can different industries have overlapping financial interests in the same social conditions?

Of course they can.

That doesn't prove coordination.

It doesn't prove that anybody deliberately created violent rap to fill prisons.

But it demonstrates another important principle:

Different systems can benefit from the same outcome without necessarily coordinating with one another.

And that idea becomes important later.


The Gangster-Rap Question

There are longstanding claims that conscious and politically outspoken hip-hop was gradually redirected toward more commercially profitable gangster and street-oriented themes.

One account associated with Minister Louis Farrakhan and KAM has argued that conscious rap was deliberately redirected toward gangster imagery and themes that could contribute to destructive behavior and ultimately benefit institutions such as the prison industry.

I'm not presenting that as established history.

It's an allegation and an interpretation.

But there is a much less controversial question underneath it:

Can commercial incentives change culture?

Absolutely.

If one kind of music sells better, receives more radio play, generates more attention and attracts more money, the industry has an incentive to promote it.

That doesn't require the CIA.

It doesn't require a secret society.

It doesn't require everybody to be working together.

It can simply be capitalism.

The more controversial question is whether powerful institutions have sometimes recognized existing cultural trends and deliberately used them.


Tupac Is Where This Gets Personal for Me

I've been investigating Tupac for years.

I even made my own documentary:

“Tupac Is Alive: The Documentary — Best of the Best Evidence.”

Tupac Is Alive: The Documentary — Best of the Best Evidence

I never presented it as absolute proof that Tupac survived.

I presented what I considered the strongest evidence I had at the time and asked people to examine it.

That's still how I approach this subject.

And that's why the Q50/Tupac connection caught my attention.

Tupac died on September 13, 1996.

Q50 died on September 13, 2026.

Exactly thirty years apart.

Again, that doesn't prove anything.

But then we have Q50 discussing Tupac shortly before his death.

We have Q50 posting Tupac lyrics about enemies plotting his death and visions of being shot.

And then Q50 is actually shot and killed.

That's weird.

Maybe it's nothing.

Maybe it's an algorithmic coincidence.

Maybe Q50 simply liked the song.

Maybe the date means nothing.

Maybe we're seeing patterns because human beings are extremely good at finding patterns.

All of those possibilities remain open.

That's exactly why I don't want to tell you what to believe.

I want to show you the breadcrumbs.


Could Someone Know Without Causing It?

This is another distinction people frequently miss.

Suppose someone somehow knew that a person was going to be attacked.

That is different from:

  • predicting the attack;
  • knowing about a plan;
  • providing information;
  • facilitating the plan;
  • financing the plan;
  • ordering the attack;
  • participating in the attack;
  • or personally carrying it out.

Those are completely different propositions.

The same principle applies to intelligence agencies.

An agency knowing something happened doesn't automatically mean it caused it.

An agency possessing information doesn't prove it ordered an event.

An individual government employee knowing something doesn't mean the entire government knew it.

Large institutions are messy.

They contain competing interests, rival agencies, bureaucracies, personal agendas, internal disagreements and people who may know only one tiny piece of a larger situation.

That's why I don't buy the simplistic version where “everyone is in on it.”

Reality is usually more complicated.


The Black Panther Connection

This is where historical context matters.

The Black Panther Party was subjected to extensive government surveillance and infiltration during the COINTELPRO era.

That history is documented.

It doesn't prove Tupac was an intelligence operative.

It doesn't prove that his music was created as an operation.

It establishes something narrower:

American intelligence and law-enforcement agencies have historically considered political and cultural movements important enough to monitor and infiltrate.

I've personally interviewed Larry Pinkney, an original Black Panther member, in an interview covering the Panthers, racism, censorship, mainstream media, UFOs and related subjects.

“JM Talboo & Larry Pinkney Talk Black Panthers, Racism, Trump, Censorship, MSM, UFOS, And More...”

JM Talboo & Larry Pinkney interview

Again, I'm not presenting that interview as evidence that Tupac was part of an intelligence operation.

I'm explaining why these intersections have interested me for a long time.


The Body-Double Theory

There's another documentary that takes the Tupac question considerably further:

“2PAC — Body Double - Chapter 17 - DOCUMENTARY (censored)”

2PAC — Body Double — Chapter 17

Some of the material in that documentary is highly speculative.

Some claims should be treated extremely cautiously.

I don't accept all of the ideological material surrounding it.

But underneath all of that is a legitimate broader question:

Can powerful institutions cultivate, manipulate, promote or exploit popular cultural figures?

History tells us that cultural influence operations have existed.

That doesn't prove the documentary's specific claims about Tupac.

It simply means the broader question is not inherently impossible.


Lil Durk and the Other Side of the Equation

Lil Durk is another interesting piece of this puzzle.

Durk won a Grammy with J. Cole for “All My Life” in 2024.

That song represented a very different side of his public musical identity from the violent street persona that became central to much of the discussion surrounding him.

Then came the federal murder-for-hire prosecution.

On September 11, 2026, a federal jury acquitted Durk of the murder-for-hire charges. Reuters reported that he remained in custody while facing a separate federal racketeering and weapons case.

That acquittal doesn't mean the government had no evidence.

It means the jury did not find that the prosecution had proved the charged offenses beyond a reasonable doubt.

That's important.

But the broader question I'm interested in is this:

What happens when an artist's public identity exists somewhere between socially destructive street imagery and positive or socially conscious material?

Does controversy sell?

Does violent imagery attract attention?

Does the industry reward certain personas?

Are artists sometimes encouraged toward identities because those identities are commercially profitable?

Those questions don't require a CIA conspiracy.

But if we're investigating institutional influence, they are relevant.


You Don't Have to Create Something to Exploit It

This may actually be the most important point in the entire article.

Suppose violent drill music developed completely organically.

Suppose there was never a government program behind it.

Suppose there was never an intelligence officer who thought:

“Let's invent drill.”

That still wouldn't mean powerful institutions couldn't eventually recognize the phenomenon and figure out how to use it.

You don't have to create something to exploit it.

You don't even necessarily have to coordinate it.

If something already exists, powerful people can learn how to benefit from it.

That's true of markets.

That's true of politics.

That's true of media.

That's true of culture.

And that's true of information.


ZunZuneo Shows That Information Environments Can Matter

Then we have ZunZuneo.

This isn't a theory about a secret rap operation.

It's a documented USAID program involving Cuba.

A USAID Inspector General report examined the program's design, approval and implementation.

The broader controversy involved the use of a communications network and questions about whether such a platform could potentially facilitate political mobilization.

Whatever interpretation somebody ultimately places on ZunZuneo, the historical point is straightforward:

The U.S. government has used communications technology and information networks as instruments in foreign-policy strategies.

That doesn't prove the same thing happened to American rappers.

It establishes something narrower:

Governments understand that information environments matter.


The Information Environment Matters

This is another reason I think people should preserve primary sources.

Search engines change.

Algorithms change.

Platforms disappear.

Videos get removed.

Accounts get deleted.

Websites vanish.

Old articles disappear.

New narratives replace old ones.

Sometimes that's just the normal lifecycle of the internet.

Sometimes moderation is involved.

Sometimes algorithms change.

Sometimes people delete their own material.

And sometimes information really does disappear for reasons we don't understand.

The important thing is not to automatically assume censorship.

The important thing is to preserve what we can and examine original sources whenever possible.


The Q50 Murder Rabbit Hole

There are already internet theories surrounding Q50's death.

One video titled:

“Reddit Just Solved Q50 Murder & Found His Killer.”

Reddit Just Solved Q50 Murder & Found His Killer

collects claims attributed to Reddit users and social-media posts.

Those claims include alleged posts made before the public announcement of Q50's death, references to money, “last MF” language, posts involving Q50 and Lil Jeff, music lyrics interpreted as possible confessions, alleged timestamps, vehicle locations and comparisons involving clothing and physical appearance.

This is precisely where we need to slow down.

A Reddit theory isn't a police report.

A suspicious social-media post isn't automatically a confession.

A timestamp isn't automatically proof of participation.

Similar clothing isn't proof of identity.

Someone deleting an account isn't proof that they committed a murder.

These things can be breadcrumbs.

They can justify looking.

They cannot, by themselves, justify declaring somebody guilty.

I am deliberately not naming alleged killers based on internet speculation.

If the evidence develops, that's a different story.


The “Crates of Guns” Question

There's another rabbit hole I've been researching involving what people describe as “crates of guns.”

I'm not going to pretend I've already established what that material proves.

I have a documentary coming that deals with it.

For now, if you're interested, search YouTube for:

“crates of guns”

Look at the material yourself.

Decide what you think it means.

Again, I'm not telling you:

“Here's the secret proof.”

I'm saying:

Go look.


So What About “They”?

When I use the word “they” in discussions like this, I'm not talking about some magical group of twelve people sitting around a table controlling every event on Earth.

I'm talking about powerful institutions and individuals.

Government agencies.

Intelligence organizations.

Corporations.

Financial interests.

Media organizations.

Political organizations.

Law enforcement.

Entertainment executives.

Investors.

Sometimes their interests align.

Sometimes they fight each other.

Sometimes they have completely different agendas.

Sometimes one faction undermines another.

Sometimes an artist is simply an artist.

Sometimes a criminal is simply a criminal.

Sometimes a coincidence is simply a coincidence.

And sometimes people operating inside a system become useful to a larger process without understanding the process themselves.

That's a much more realistic model of power than one giant omniscient conspiracy.


The Breadcrumbs

So here are the breadcrumbs as I see them.

Governments have deliberately used music as diplomacy.

Jazz became part of American cultural diplomacy.

Rock became a major cultural export.

Hip-hop eventually became part of American cultural diplomacy.

The State Department openly uses hip-hop internationally.

The CIA has a documented history of covert cultural influence during the Cold War.

CIA relationships with journalists were investigated by Congress, and the agency subsequently adopted restrictions concerning paid relationships with U.S. journalists.

JFK-era documents demonstrate that U.S. officials contemplated deceptive covert-action scenarios, including proposals concerning Cuba and fabricated incidents.

The JFK files contain extensive material about intelligence operations surrounding Cuba and the assassination investigation.

Former Congressman Curt Weldon has alleged that the Able Danger program identified Mohamed Atta and other future hijackers before 9/11.

The 9/11 Commission and Pentagon disputed the central Able Danger allegations, and documentary confirmation remains contested.

Newly declassified CIA documents show that U.S. intelligence possessed substantial warnings concerning al-Qaeda before 9/11, although those documents do not establish that U.S. officials planned the attacks.

The music industry has enormous economic incentives that influence what gets promoted.

Artists such as Ice Cube have publicly questioned relationships between entertainment and other industries.

There are longstanding claims that conscious rap was commercially redirected toward gangster imagery.

There are modern theories that intelligence agencies influenced drill.

There are explicit claims that hip-hop was used as an intelligence psy-op.

There are competing theories surrounding Tupac.

Q50 died on the same calendar date as Tupac.

Q50 had recently discussed Tupac.

Q50 had posted Tupac lyrics about enemies plotting his death and visions of being shot.

And Q50 was subsequently shot and killed.

There are internet theories surrounding the circumstances of Q50's death.

And there are continuing questions about how law enforcement, prosecutors, media organizations, labels, corporations and artists interact.

None of those individual breadcrumbs proves the entire theory.

But they do lead to a reasonable question:

How much influence does power actually have over popular culture?


My Old Song Was Asking the Same Question

And this brings me back to “The Soundtrack of Revolution.”

I wrote that song before Q50 existed as part of this conversation.

Before the current drill ecosystem.

Before today's social-media environment.

Before many of the recent developments we're discussing.

The song was asking what happens when revolutionary music gets turned into a commercial product.

It talked about rap being turned into advertising.

The boom bap being hijacked.

Clones being created.

Music that could “spark minds” becoming less attractive to people who prefer compliant entertainment.

It also referenced Jadakiss's famous line about George W. Bush and September 11, and the broader tendency for controversial political statements to become entertainment commodities instead of catalysts for political action.

And then there were these lines:

“Obama dropped bombs. Biden approved. Yet peace was the mask the media used. Different faces, same spine. Left or right, just Pepsi and Coke.”

Whether somebody agrees with those lyrics or not, they show what I was thinking about back then.

Not Republicans versus Democrats.

Not left versus right.

The larger relationship between:

culture, politics, money and power.

That's the thread connecting the old song to the questions I'm asking now.


What Am I Actually Claiming?

Not that the CIA invented drill.

Not that Tupac was definitely an intelligence asset.

Not that Q50 was killed by an intelligence agency.

Not that Lil Durk was targeted because he made positive music.

Not that every violent rapper is a pawn.

Not that every government official knows some secret master plan.

Not that every coincidence is evidence.

And not that every theory on the internet deserves equal credibility.

What I'm saying is much simpler.

Powerful institutions influence culture.

Documented.

Governments deliberately use music as diplomacy and soft power.

Documented.

Intelligence agencies have historically conducted covert cultural influence operations.

Documented.

The CIA had relationships with journalists and subsequently adopted restrictions on certain paid relationships with U.S. news correspondents.

Documented.

The U.S. government contemplated deceptive covert-action scenarios during the Cold War.

Documented.

U.S. intelligence possessed significant warnings about al-Qaeda before 9/11.

Documented.

The Able Danger controversy exists, and former Congressman Curt Weldon continues to argue that important intelligence information was suppressed or mishandled.

Documented as an allegation and continuing controversy—not established as fact.

The music industry has enormous economic incentives that shape what gets promoted.

Observable.

The controversial question is how far those mechanisms extend.

Does cultural influence sometimes become deliberate social engineering?

Can intelligence agencies exploit existing musical movements?

Can governments cultivate artists or scenes in particular circumstances?

Can violent cultural trends become useful to powerful institutions even when those institutions didn't create them?

Can individual artists become unwitting participants in systems they don't understand?

Those are questions.

Not conclusions.


The Biggest Mistake Would Be Assuming There Has to Be One Master Plan

I actually think the “master plan” version is the least interesting possibility.

History is usually much messier.

Different agencies compete.

Corporations compete.

Politicians change.

Administrations change.

Executives chase money.

Artists chase fame.

Criminal organizations pursue their own interests.

Intelligence agencies pursue their own objectives.

People make mistakes.

People betray each other.

People don't know everything.

Sometimes independent events accidentally reinforce each other.

A system can produce a particular outcome without every person inside that system consciously intending that outcome.

That's one of the most important things to understand about power:

Coordination isn't always necessary for alignment.


And That's Where I Leave It

I'm not claiming I solved it.

I'm not claiming I know who is pulling every string.

I'm not claiming every theory is true.

I'm not claiming the most dramatic explanation is necessarily the correct one.

I'm saying there are enough documented examples of governments using culture, enough historical examples of intelligence agencies conducting influence operations, enough evidence of intelligence failures and controversies, enough economic incentives inside the music industry, and enough strange individual cases that I don't think the subject should automatically be dismissed as crazy.

At the same time, skepticism has to work in both directions.

If somebody says:

“The CIA created drill.”

Ask for evidence.

If somebody says:

“The CIA could never possibly influence music.”

Ask for evidence.

If somebody says:

“Tupac definitely survived.”

Ask for evidence.

If somebody says:

“Tupac definitely could not have survived.”

Ask for evidence.

If somebody says:

“Q50's death proves an intelligence operation.”

Ask for evidence.

That's how we separate investigation from belief.

A question can be reasonable without its proposed answer being established.

That's the whole point.

I'm not asking you to believe me.

I'm asking you to look.

Follow the breadcrumbs.

And remember:

Facts speak for themselves.

Facts are not proof of every conclusion somebody attaches to them.

And maybe most importantly:

Don't worship the artist. Become one too.

I'm still making conscious, anti-authoritarian hip-hop in 2026.

If you want to hear what that sounds like, I'm @Crashout.Royalty.

#CrashoutAristocrats #SoundtrackOfRevolution #ConsciousHipHop #MusicAndPower #FollowTheBreadcrumbs


Further Reading / Sources

Q50 / Tupac

Q50 — recent reporting on his death and the Fuller Park shooting
The U.S. Sun — BloodHound Q50 killed at 22

Q50 / VladTV interview
VladTV — Q50 interview

Q50 murder theory / Reddit claims
Reddit Just Solved Q50 Murder & Found His Killer

Tupac — “2PAC—Body Double - Chapter 17 - DOCUMENTARY (censored)”
2PAC — Body Double — Chapter 17

John-Michael Talboo — “Tupac Is Alive: The Documentary — Best of the Best Evidence”
Tupac Is Alive documentary

JFK

JFK Files — alleged second-gunman reporting
Daily Star — JFK files / second gunman article

JFK Files — CIA plots against Castro and Miami bombing proposals
CBS Miami — JFK Files / CIA and Miami bombing proposals

JFK documents — proposed bombing scenarios
Paste Magazine — JFK documents and bombing proposals

More JFK Files Revelations — 911Debunkers
More JFK Files Revelations

It Is NOT a Mystery in a Conspiracy Scenario as to Who Killed JFK
911Debunkers — JFK assassination analysis

Truth Teller's Radio — JFK Document Dump
Truth Teller's Radio — JFK Document Dump

Debunking “JFK: The Smoking Gun”
911Debunkers — JFK Smoking Gun response

Proof of JFK Assassination Plot Without Debating a Magic Bullet
911Debunkers — JFK assassination plot analysis

CIA / Cultural Influence

CIA — Origins of the Congress for Cultural Freedom, 1949–50
CIA historical study

CIA — archived version of the Congress for Cultural Freedom study
CIA archive — Congress for Cultural Freedom

CIA — relationships with journalists / 1976 policy
CIA FOIA — 1976 DCI statement on journalists

CIA journalist relationships — congressional-era reporting
CIA FOIA archive — CIA journalists reporting

U.S. Department of State — Music Diplomacy
U.S. State Department — Music Diplomacy

U.S. Department of State — International Hip-Hop Artists program
U.S. State Department — international hip-hop exchange

Council on Foreign Relations — Hip-Hop Diplomacy
Council on Foreign Relations — Hip-Hop Diplomacy

9/11 / Able Danger / Curt Weldon

Curt Weldon — Press Conference on 9/11 Commission and Able Danger
Curt Weldon — Able Danger press conference

Curt Weldon — Statement on Able Danger
Federation of American Scientists — Weldon statement

Washington Post — Sept. 11 Panel Explores Allegations About Atta
Washington Post — Able Danger / Atta allegations

Washington Post — No Evidence of Atta Claims, Pentagon Says
Washington Post — Pentagon investigation of Able Danger claims

Curt Weldon — Able Danger: What the 9/11 Commission Never Told You
Google Books — Able Danger

Jimmy Dore — Curt Weldon interview
Jimmy Dore Show — Curt Weldon / Able Danger interview

USAID Inspector General — Cuban Civil Society Support Program / ZunZuneo
USAID OIG report

Music, Industry and Drill

Kurt Metzger / The Danny Brown Show — “Did The CIA Invent Drill Rap?”
The Danny Brown Show — Kurt Metzger episode

Ice Cube — music and prison-industry discussion
HotNewHipHop — Ice Cube on music and prisons

Ambrosia For Heads — Ice Cube interview
Ambrosia For Heads — Ice Cube and prisons

VladTV — Ice Cube on label owners and prisons
VladTV — Ice Cube interview

USAID & The Rap Game
USAID & The Rap Game — Part 1

“YOU WILL NEVER BE A MAINSTREAM RAPPER”
YouTube search / source video

Lil Durk

Reuters — Lil Durk acquitted in murder-for-hire trial
Reuters — Lil Durk trial

Associated Press — Lil Durk acquittal
Associated Press — Lil Durk acquitted

GRAMMY.com — 2024 winners and nominees
GRAMMY.com — 2024 winners and nominees

John-Michael Talboo — “Beyond ‘Durk Is Cooked’”
Mind Treasury — Lil Durk trial analysis

Personal / Related Sources

JM Talboo & Larry Pinkney — Black Panthers, racism, censorship, media and UFOs
Bitchute — Larry Pinkney interview

The Soundtrack of Revolution — surviving song/video
The Soundtrack of Revolution

Search term for the upcoming “crates of guns” documentary:
crates of guns

Twenty-Five Years Later: Remembering 9/11, Serving Our Communities, and Continuing to Ask Questions

Twenty-Five Years Later: Remembering 9/11, Serving Our Communities, and Continuing to Ask Questions

By JM Talboo DebunkerBusters.blogspot.com

Twenty-five years after September 11, 2001, America is once again being asked to remember.

And I think we should.

But I also think remembering September 11 should mean more than simply watching the ceremonies, hearing the names read, and repeating the phrase “Never Forget.”

It should mean remembering the people who ran toward danger.

It should mean helping the communities we live in.

It should mean supporting firefighters, police officers, EMS workers and other first responders.

And it should mean continuing to educate ourselves about what happened that day — including the questions that remain controversial.

Remembering Through Service

September 11 is officially recognized not only as Patriot Day, but also as the September 11 National Day of Service and Remembrance.

That distinction matters.

The National Day of Service and Remembrance grew out of an effort involving families who lost loved ones on September 11. In 2009, it was formally established through the Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act, with AmeriCorps involved in coordinating service opportunities nationwide.

The 2026 25th-anniversary observance encourages Americans to honor the victims and heroes of 9/11 through community service.

I support that completely.

In fact, I've personally volunteered to become a firefighter in my own community.

If remembering 9/11 inspires somebody to become a firefighter, EMT, volunteer, mentor, or otherwise help his neighbors, that's a good thing.

There are also organizations asking people to donate, volunteer and support first responders. That's worthwhile.

One of the most interesting things I've seen this anniversary season is the number of people participating in memorial stair climbs and walks.

In Ohio, for example, participants have been retracing the equivalent of the 110-story climb associated with the World Trade Center towers. These events are meant as symbolic acts of remembrance and solidarity with the firefighters who climbed those towers on September 11.

I think that's a beautiful gesture.

But there is something important to remember about what those firefighters actually did.

They weren't simply walking up stairs.

They were climbing into an active disaster while carrying enormous amounts of equipment, operating in smoke, heat, darkness and confusion, and many were carrying rescue equipment and breathing apparatus.

The symbolic climbs help people appreciate the physical scale of what happened. But the reality was considerably harder.

And that brings me to something I've thought about for years.

What Did the Firefighters Believe They Were Walking Into?

Three hundred forty-three FDNY firefighters died on September 11.

I don't believe those men were knowingly sent into buildings that their commanders had determined were about to catastrophically collapse.

That's my opinion, but I think it's an important question.

If the fire department had known that the towers were imminently going to collapse in the manner they ultimately did, would it really have sent hundreds of firefighters upward into them?

I don't think so.

Firefighters are trained to assess structural danger. Their mission is to save people, not to commit suicide.

The official record actually shows something more complicated than a simple story in which everybody understood the buildings were about to fall. There was enormous confusion about what was happening, what information was available, and what warnings were reaching firefighters.

To me, that raises an additional question about the controlled-demolition hypothesis.

The South Tower, for example, visibly tilted before its descent and then appeared to straighten as the collapse progressed. To demolition advocates, the subsequent descent through the building's footprint and other aspects of the collapse sequence are among the observations they regard as requiring explanation.

I don't consider any single observation proof of controlled demolition.

I consider the collection of observations a reason to keep investigating.

And I think the same principle applies to the firefighters.

If the buildings were understood to be structurally doomed in the way they eventually failed, why did the rescue operation continue on such a massive scale?

That's a question worth asking.

Frank DeMartini and the Confidence in the Towers

Another example that has always struck me is Frank DeMartini.

DeMartini was a construction manager associated with the World Trade Center. Before September 11, he spoke about the towers' structural design using an analogy involving mosquito netting and a pencil: the exterior structural system could be punctured without necessarily compromising the integrity of the entire structure.

On September 11, DeMartini went back into the North Tower to help people.

He did not survive.

Whatever conclusion somebody ultimately reaches about the collapse mechanism, I think there is something profoundly important about remembering the mindset of people like DeMartini.

They believed they could go in and help.

The firefighters believed they could go in and help.

They were acting on the information and structural expectations available to them.

That's why I don't think their sacrifice should be reduced to a footnote in an argument about conspiracy theories.

Their actions are themselves part of the historical evidence we should be examining.

The Firefighter Testimony Wasn't Easy to Get

There is another part of this history that deserves more attention.

The FDNY collected extensive oral histories from firefighters, paramedics and EMTs after the attacks.

The New York Times requested those records.

The Fire Department resisted releasing them.

The Times ultimately went to court.

In 2005, the New York Court of Appeals ruled on the newspaper's request and ordered substantial disclosure of the oral histories, subject to protections for certain private material. The resulting public archive contained approximately 12,000 pages of firsthand accounts.

These weren't anonymous internet posts.

These were firsthand accounts from people who were actually there.

And once those accounts became available, researchers began examining them in detail.

Graeme MacQueen's paper “118 Witnesses: The Firefighters' Testimony to Explosions in the Twin Towers” examined first-responder accounts describing explosions and related phenomena. MacQueen argued that these accounts warranted serious investigation in considering the possibility that explosive events contributed to the collapses.

That doesn't mean the oral histories prove controlled demolition.

But it does mean that firsthand reports of explosions are part of the historical record.

And if we're telling people to educate themselves about September 11, why shouldn't those accounts be included?

What Happened at the Pentagon?

This is where I part company with some people who identify themselves as 9/11 Truth researchers.

Jimmy Dore recently interviewed Craig McKee in a segment arguing that a plane did not hit the Pentagon.

I don't agree with that conclusion.

In fact, there are researchers within the broader 9/11 Truth movement who have challenged the no-plane interpretation. Adam Taylor, a contributor to my own 9/11 Debunkers project, has written specifically against McKee's Pentagon argument.

That distinction is important to me.

I don't believe that questioning the official account means we have to accept every alternative theory that comes along.

Some alternative theories are better supported than others.

The Pentagon is still worth investigating.

Why was there so little publicly available clear video of the actual impact when the Pentagon is surrounded by surveillance cameras?

That's a legitimate question.

But there are at least two possible explanations for the limited public footage.

One possibility is that the limited footage supports the argument that something other than a Boeing 757 struck the building.

Another possibility is that additional footage existed but was not publicly released.

The existence of limited public footage doesn't, by itself, establish either conclusion.

And that's exactly why I think this subject deserves investigation rather than slogans.

There is also substantial firsthand evidence from people who responded to the Pentagon attack. Patrick Creed and Rick Newman documented the emergency response in their book Firefight: Inside the Battle to Save the Pentagon on 9/11, drawing on accounts from firefighters and others who were there.

So if we're going to investigate the Pentagon, let's investigate all of the evidence — not just the evidence that supports the theory we walked in believing.

The Mineta Testimony and the Timeline Problem

Then there is Norman Mineta.

Mineta, the Secretary of Transportation on September 11, testified before the 9/11 Commission that he arrived at the Presidential Emergency Operations Center at approximately 9:20 a.m.

He described seeing Vice President Dick Cheney already there.

Mineta then described a young man repeatedly coming into the room and reporting that an aircraft was 50 miles away, then 30 miles away, and eventually 10 miles away.

At one point, according to Mineta's testimony, the young man asked Cheney:

“Do the orders still stand?”

Cheney replied that they did.

When Commissioner Timothy Roemer asked Mineta when this occurred, Mineta said it was approximately five or six minutes after his arrival — putting the exchange around 9:25 or 9:26.

Mineta himself said he inferred that the orders concerned shooting down Flight 77. His testimony does not independently establish what the orders actually were.

But here's where things get interesting.

Mineta's account also raises a timeline problem.

The 9/11 Commission's final report placed Cheney's arrival in the PEOC later than Mineta's account would indicate.

Other accounts have also been cited in support of an earlier Cheney arrival.

So even if somebody completely rejects the stand-down interpretation, there is still a legitimate historical question:

Why are there conflicting accounts about when Cheney entered the PEOC, and what exactly was happening there while Flight 77 was approaching Washington?

And another question follows naturally:

If the orders Mineta heard were shoot-down orders, why wasn't Flight 77 intercepted?

If they weren't shoot-down orders, what were they?

Those are questions.

They aren't conclusions.

But questions are exactly what historical investigation is supposed to produce.

Mineta's testimony is particularly interesting because, whether he intended to or not, it exposed a conflict between his recollection and the timeline presented in the Commission's final account.

That deserves examination.

The Bigger NORAD Question

The Mineta testimony also intersects with the larger question of why the military response to the hijacked aircraft unfolded the way it did.

The 9/11 Commission documented extraordinary confusion during the morning of September 11. Multiple agencies were trying to determine what was happening, communications were imperfect, and the military response was complicated by incomplete and changing information.

That doesn't automatically establish a “stand-down.”

But it also doesn't make the question disappear.

If an aircraft was approaching Washington and military authorities knew it was a hijacked plane, what instructions were given?

When were those instructions given?

To whom?

When did fighter aircraft receive them?

What authority existed to engage the aircraft?

And why did the system fail to intercept it?

Those questions have been debated for twenty-five years.

They remain legitimate questions.

Why Was There So Much Resistance to Asking?

This is where I think the history of the 9/11 Truth movement itself becomes important.

The movement wasn't simply created by anonymous people sitting on the internet.

Family members of people killed on September 11 were among the earliest people demanding additional answers and investigations. Some ultimately became involved in questions about possible government complicity, foreknowledge and unanswered evidence.

Some researchers went further and embraced controlled-demolition theories.

Others did not.

That's an important distinction.

You can support the families' demand for answers without automatically accepting every conclusion reached by every researcher who later joined the movement.

In fact, that's where I think some contemporary 9/11 discussion has gone wrong.

There are people who genuinely want the truth who are nevertheless promoting theories I consider poorly supported.

The Pentagon “no plane” theory is one example.

I think that can actually hurt the credibility of legitimate 9/11 investigation.

You don't help an investigation by pretending every hypothesis is equally strong.

You help it by following the evidence wherever it leads — even when that means telling people on your own side that they're wrong.

The Questions Are Becoming Mainstream Again

Something else has changed over the past twenty-five years.

Questions that were once routinely dismissed as “conspiracy theory” are still appearing in mainstream journalism and public discussion.

This year's 25th anniversary provides several examples.

CBS's 60 Minutes has revisited the classified 28 pages concerning possible foreign support networks connected to the hijackers. Its current 25th-anniversary coverage discusses the history of those pages and allegations concerning possible Saudi connections.

And on September 13, 2026, President Donald Trump said he would consider releasing additional records requested by 9/11 victims' families concerning possible Saudi connections to the attacks. Reuters reported that the request has bipartisan support among New York lawmakers.

That doesn't prove the claims contained in those records.

But it proves something else:

Twenty-five years later, the government is still being asked to release records and answer questions about September 11.

That's not conspiracy theory.

That's history.

Former Congressman Curt Weldon is another example.

Weldon has continued publicly raising questions about pre-9/11 intelligence and what he believes was withheld from investigators. His recent appearance on The Jimmy Dore Show revisited those claims and his work surrounding Able Danger.

I don't agree with every claim Weldon makes.

But I think it's worth knowing what he says.

And that's the larger point.

Investigating something doesn't require endorsing every investigator.

What I Think “Never Forget” Should Mean

Twenty-five years after September 11, I don't think “Never Forget” should mean merely remembering the images.

It should mean remembering the victims.

Remembering the firefighters.

Remembering the police officers.

Remembering the EMS workers.

Remembering the people who ran into burning buildings while everyone else was trying to escape.

It should mean supporting the people who do that job today.

It should mean volunteering.

It should mean donating.

It should mean educating ourselves.

And yes, it should mean asking difficult questions.

I can support a memorial stair climb and simultaneously ask what those firefighters believed they were walking into.

I can honor Frank DeMartini and still ask questions about the structural behavior of the towers.

I can acknowledge the people who responded to the Pentagon while questioning why so little impact footage was made public.

I can acknowledge that Mineta's interpretation of the “orders” isn't proof of a stand-down while still asking why his testimony creates a timeline conflict.

I can reject the “no plane hit the Pentagon” theory while still demanding that the Pentagon evidence be fully examined.

I can support the families who have spent twenty-five years asking questions without pretending that every theory they've encountered is correct.

That's not a contradiction.

That's what investigation is supposed to look like.

And perhaps the most important lesson of all is this:

Don't worship the official story. Don't worship the alternative story, either.

Look at the evidence.

Read the testimony.

Read the documents.

Listen to the people who were there.

And then keep asking questions.

Because twenty-five years later, there are still questions worth asking.

And remembering doesn't require us to stop investigating.

In fact, perhaps the best way to honor the people who died is to make sure we never stop trying to understand exactly what happened to them.

Further Reading and Sources

9/11 National Day of Service and Remembrance

AmeriCorps — September 11 Day of Service and Remembrance:
https://www.americorps.gov/serve/volunteer/911-day

9/11 Commission

The 9/11 Commission Report:
https://9-11commission.gov/report/

9/11 Commission hearing archives:
https://9-11commission.gov/archive/hearing1/index.htm

Norman Mineta testimony, May 23, 2003:
https://9-11commission.gov/archive/hearing2/9-11Commission_Hearing_2003-05-23.htm

FDNY Oral Histories

New York Times / FDNY oral-history litigation background:
https://www.rcfp.org/firefighters-sept-11-oral-histories-are-open-911-calls-are-not/

National September 11 Memorial & Museum oral-history collection:
https://www.911memorial.org/learn/resources/oral-histories

CBS/AP report on the 12,000 pages of FDNY oral histories:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-tapes-reveal-9-11-drama/

Graeme MacQueen and First-Responder Testimony

Graeme MacQueen, “118 Witnesses: The Firefighters' Testimony to Explosions in the Twin Towers”:
https://ic911.org/journal/articles/118-witnesses-the-firefighters-testimony-to-explosions-in-the-twin-towers-2/

Pentagon Response

Patrick Creed and Rick Newman, Firefight: Inside the Battle to Save the Pentagon on 9/11:
https://pentagonmemorial.org/

Pentagon Memorial historical resources:
https://pentagonmemorial.org/resource/

9/11 Debunkers

9/11 Debunkers:
https://911debunkers.blogspot.com/

Adam Taylor's examination of Craig McKee's Pentagon claims:
https://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2014/06/contra-craig-mckee-boeing-757-did.html

Jim Hoffman / 9/11 Research

Jim Hoffman's 9/11 Research:
https://911research.wtc7.net/

David Ray Griffin

David Ray Griffin's 9/11-related work:
https://www.amazon.com/stores/David-Ray-Griffin/author/B001K8FZ1A

60 Minutes / CBS

“28 Pages” / CBS coverage of the classified 9/11 report:
https://www.cbs.com/shows/60-minutes/

CBS News 9/11 coverage and 28-page reporting:
https://www.cbsnews.com/

Jimmy Dore — Craig McKee / Pentagon Discussion

Jimmy Dore — “No, A Plane DID NOT Hit The Pentagon On 9/11! w/ Craig McKee”:
https://www.jimmydore.com/

Video listing:
https://rumble.com/

Jimmy Dore — Curt Weldon

Jimmy Dore — Curt Weldon discussion concerning 9/11 and Able Danger:
https://www.jimmydore.com/

Recent 2026 Reporting on Additional 9/11 Records

Reuters — “Trump says he will consider request to release more 9/11 records,” September 13, 2026:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-hell-consider-whether-release-more-911-records-2026-09-13/

Associated Press — Trump says he will consider declassifying additional 9/11 records:
https://apnews.com/article/e5eb45c9ab0928847ffe8806a7c35c7e

Twenty-five years later, perhaps the most appropriate thing we can do is both remember and investigate.

Never forget the people.

Never stop asking questions.