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by StooBradley



This video is also posted at visibility911.com.

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9/11 Missing Links

Friday, September 4, 2009

I recently rejected a comment promoting the film 9/11 Missing Links. In my opinion this film is nothing but insulting racist propaganda that provides "debunkers" of 9/11 truth with ammunition.

I will not publish comments that promote this film as the "real truth" of 9/11.

Pager Messages and the Distorted Tilt.

While the Climatologists are studying their leaked archive of goodies, we 9/11 researchers have some of our own leaked goodies - half a million pager intercepts. I've had a look through most of the messages between 08:00 and 13:00. There isn't really anything as obviously damning as the ClimateGate emails but I've noticed a few things of interest.

Server crashes, messages relating to drills and reports of bombs/explosions all over the place are the most interesting. There were reports of bomb scares and car bomb attacks at the State Department Building, Hotel Washington, a treasury building, a school, an army recruiting office, a music production company, an energy company, even the Washington Monument! There were also reports of secondary explosions at the world trade center - yet more to add to the long list.

See this thread on the Prison Planet Forum for more:
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=145873.40

I've just watched part three of the recent Hardfire debate. Much attention was spent debating the significance of the tilt. Mackey uses these graphics to demonstrate what the tilt would have done to the lower floors and explain the lack of a jolt...

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My problem with this analysis is that it assumes that the top portion of the building rotated about a fixed point, reached an angle of eight degrees and THEN started falling. I've seen similar analyses of the South Tower's collapse by debunkers. They assume it rotated approximately 20 degrees about a fulcrum and then the fulcrum gave way and the upper block just fell (completely ignoring the conservation of angular momentum). In the case of both towers, these models are incorrect. The tilts did not happen before the falls, the tilts happened during the falls.

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As we see in the above video, there was a tilt, and the tilting may have started immediately. However, it did not reach eight degrees until the upper section had already fallen several floors. So even if an eight degree tilt could explain the lack of a jolt (which I don't believe it could), it's completely irrelevant in this case.

I've seen several videos of buildings being demolished using hydraulics where they literally drop the top half of the building onto the bottom half and there's always a noticeable deceleration when the top half impacts the bottom half. A number of them are in my video Fires, Explosions, Demolitions, Collapses, Crushdowns and the World Trade Center.

Of course this is completely pointless anyway. Anyone with more than two brain cells and an open mind can see that building didn't just fall down. In the same way anyone looking at the Zapruder film can see Kennedy was shot from the front. And the forensic evidence of reactants, products and by-products of various classes of thermite reactions proves demolition.

Put a Nut Bar in Your Pie Hole!

I popped over to the ScrewLooseChange blog to see what they had to say regarding the Wikileaks 9/11 transcripts; there was only a short statement from Pat Curley...

"Fascinating stuff. Although I have no doubt the kooks will be incorporating some of the information into their nutbar theories, I applaud the release."

Well there are a few of the Wikileaks text messages concerning secondary devices in the towers...

9:31:51 AM
"N.Y.C. TKT#191100488 - WTC HAS BEEN HIT BY AN AIRPLANE AND A BOMB. CURRENTLY B6 IS BEING EVACUATED. NCC HAS RECEIVED MULTIPLE ALARMS OPTICAL / ENVIORNMENTAL. UPDATES WILL FOLLOW. RYAN P/L NCC 800-824-8049"

"Bomb detonated in World Trade Ctr. Pls get back to Mike Brady w/a quick assessment of your areas and contact us if anything is needed"

...But we won't be incorporating them into any theories. We will however add them to the long list of supporting eyewitness accounts for the unrefuted peer-reviewed science published by members of the 9/11 truth movement regarding bombs in the Towers.

Related Info...

Pager Messages and the Distorted Tilt.

Firefighter reports regarding the 9/11 WTC collapse

Website Wikileaks publishes '9/11 messages'

The messages were said to have been sent on 11 September 2001

news.bbc.co.uk
Thursday, 26 November 2009
Page last updated at 00:39 GMT

A website has published what it says are 573,000 intercepted pager messages sent during the 9/11 attacks in the United States.

Wikileaks says it will not reveal who gave it the messages - some of which are from federal agencies as well as ordinary citizens.

Internet analysts say they believe the messages are genuine but federal authorities have refused to comment.

The attacks on 11 September 2001 left nearly 3,000 people dead.

The messages are being published over a 24-hour period, ending at 0800GMT on Thursday. They are being released simultaneously on Wikileaks and social networking site Twitter.

'Live' broadcast

The website is broadcasting each message at the time it was sent originally in 2001.

The first message was from 0300 local time (0800 GMT), five hours before the first attack in New York and the last 24 hours later.

The messages are not all about the attacks. Some are mundane questions about what people are having for lunch.

However, many are about the deadly plane attacks and range from people trying to find out if their loved ones are safe, to government messages, to computer server errors.

They include messages such as

This is Myrna, I will not rest until you get home, the second tower is down, I don't want to have to keep calling you after every event. Pls just go home

President has been rerouted won't be returning to Washington but not sure where he will go

Bomb detonated in World Trade Ctr. Pls get back to Mike Brady w/a quick assessment of your areas and contact us if anything is needed

New York's fire and police departments said they could not comment on whether messages purportedly sent from them were genuine while the US Secret Service refused to comment.

Pager company USA Mobility said it was troubled by the alleged interceptions, the Associated Press news agency reported.

Wikileaks allows people to anonymously post documents on the web, saying its aim is to promote transparency.

It was created in 2006 by dissidents, journalists, mathematicians and technologists from the US, Taiwan, Europe, Australia and South Africa.

Wikileaks spokesman Daniel Schmitt said the messages were submitted anonymously to the site several weeks ago.

He told Associated Press: "From the context information that the source provided we have strong reasons to believe that this is valid data."

He said the messages would help provide a fuller picture of what happened that day.

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9/11 tragedy pager intercepts

Put a Nut Bar in Your Pie Hole!

The Truth Hurts

Pat Curley recently let his readers know why he doesn't have have Google ads on his blog...

"If you want to know why we don't have Google Ads around here, this is one major reason why. I opened up my G-mailbox this morning and saw this:



Yep, good old Russia Today, with an article extolling the virtues of that piece of Italian dreck, Zero."

Good old Russia Today indeed...

RT (TV network)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

"Achievements

In 2007, RT's share of monthly audience among NTV Plus viewers in Moscow exceeded those of CNN and Bloomberg.[4]

In December 2007, RT programmes were displayed in New York on America's main information video walls, NASDAQ and Reuters. On New Year's Eve, RT's New Year's programme from Moscow and St. Petersburg was displayed live on the NASDAQ and Reuters screens for the thousands of people celebrating in Times Square.[4]

In August 2007, RT had television's first ever live report from the North Pole, which lasted 5 minutes 41 seconds. An RT crew participated in the Arktika 2007 Russian polar expedition, led by Artur Chilingarov on the Akademik Fyodorov icebreaker.[5]

In June 2007, RT was one of the first Russian TV channels to have its own channel on YouTube, the leading video hosting site on the Internet. In January 2008, the total number of views for RT videos on YouTube was over 3 million, and RT was sixth in YouTube's Most Viewed Partners rating, leaving behind CBS, BBC World, Al Jazeera English, and France 24.[4]

Professional awards

In January 2009 Silver World Medal for Best News Documentary “A city of desolate mothers” from the New York Festivals

In November 2008 Special Jury Award in the Best Creative Feature category for a Russian Glamour feature story at Media Excellence Awards in London.

In September 2008 Russia's most prestigious broadcasting award TEFI in Best News Anchor category.

In November 2007, RT's report on the anniversary of the Chernobyl catastrophe received a special prize from the international 2007 AIB Media Excellence Awards[6] in the News Coverage category. Other nominees included major international broadcasters such as BBC, France 24, Deutsche Welle, CBS, Al Arabiya, and others. There was only one story by CBS News which rated higher than RT and it received the Grand Prix.

In September 2007, the Eurasian Academy of Television and Radio[7] awarded RT with the Prize for Professional Skillfulness.

In June 2007, the 11th "Save and Preserve" International Environmental Television Festival[8] awarded its Grand Prix to RT's Meeting with Nature series. There were 284 entries competing in 10 categories, including a work by German TV channel Deutsche Welle.

In September 2006, the 10th "Golden Tambourine" International Festival for Television programmes and films[9] awarded RT's documentary People of the Bering Strait in the Ethnography and Travel category."

And the article doesn't exactly "extol the virtues" of the film, while it does state in the headline that the film "reveals shocking facts," it does not claim that these facts mean 9/11 was an inside job. All in all it reports objectively on the premise of the film and the material contained within, using the phrases "the makers of the documentary claim," and "the film claims."

In essence the article does what the American media should be doing; reporting on the political reality of the 9/11 truth movement without relying on propagandist ad hominem attacks.

Another fine example of the foreign press doing the job of real journalism took place earlier this year when a 9/11 media breakthrough took place on Denmark television...

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As an article by Bill Douglas, who is co-founder of the National911Visibility.org pointed out, the 9/11 truth movement has been exploding in the worldwide press, making it the U.S. media's dirty little secret.

And contrary to what Pat Curley would have you believe the Hard Evidence Down Under Tour that has just wrapped up is reported to have been an amazing success.

I was going to publish this blog at this point, but upon doing some more research I have switched my position. I'm sure this will come at the dismay of my readers, but I am now officially changing camps, sorry folks, I was wrong, 9/11 happened exactly as advertised.

The foreign press obviously just reports on the 9/11 twoof movement as it does because all of the world hates America. If only those 41 U.S. counter-terrorism and intelligence agency veterans who question the official 9/11 story had not read articles in the foreign press! I bet this anti-American propaganda also caused those members of the 9/11 Commission who have decried their own report to turn to such kookery as well. The nearly 1,000 members of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth have certainly also been victimized by the likes of Russia Today. Good thing they don't have any structural engineers among their ranks, or I would really be worried for this great nation of ours. I could go on, but you get the point. The foreign press is a scourge that must be purged!

I hope and pray that you all can forgive me for leading you astray. I'm very ashamed of myself. A good American should never trust the foreign press or question their government. All this time I claimed to be the true patriot, but I was just a hypocrite.

Related Info...

911 BREAKTHROUGH: Richard Gage AIA on New Zealand National Television

Supreme Pawn to be Executed

So according to Der Fuhrer, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who was obviously nothing more than a single pawn in the grand compartmentalized chess game that was the 9/11 operation, is going to be sentanced to death. Once again it seems they are going to kill their patsy, just like with Oswald and many others.

It doesn't matter what happens. They can kill him, they can have him confess, they can show a HD video of him with Bin Laden and the 19 hijackers planning their operation... it still doesn't change anything.

It still doesn't explain how Hani Hanjour was able to execute a 330 degree downward turn, decend six thousand feet in 2 and a half minutes, then enter a steep dive and descend a futher two thousand feet in 40 seconds, then pull up out of the dive at 500 miles per hour and overcome the enormous G-Forces that would have created and then knock down 5 light poles in less than a second while maintaining the perfect trajectory required to hit the ground floor of the Pentagon a second later without touching the lawn... all without attracting the attention of the US Air Defence.

It still doesn't shed any more light on the war games or the doomsday planes.

It still doesn't explain how jet fuel can cause volcanic explosions and hot fires that rage for several months.

It still doesn't explain how a skyscraper can fall at freefall.

Etc.

On another note, it seems some hackers have leaked some interesting emails from a british Climate Research Unit. Some of the emails prove there's a deception going on with regards to climate change, which raises serious doubts about the legitimacy of so-called "independent" research. Just imagine if we ever got to see emails exchanged between NIST investigators. I bet one would read something like this:

Shyam,

I have milked this computer model as much as I can. I've tweaked the parameters to the limit and the best time I can get is 5.4 seconds. I think we're just going to have to pick an arbitrarily early start time.

John

Now I can see why Jay Rockefeller is so paranoid about cyber security.

Speaking of scientific frauds, here's my latest video:

The 911 Commission Report: A Letter to Booksellers who Recommend this Trash

Steve Weathers
http://911debunkers.blogspot.com
November 21, 2009

Here is an email I sent to Borders Australia:

I don't expect any action, but I have done what I have to !

http://www.borders.com.au/contact-us

Why does Borders Books (Knox) include in its recommended books section The 911 Commission Report ?

Do you realise that 6 out of 10 Commission heads now consider their report constituted a whitewash ? Do you realise that the two Chairs, Kean and Hamilton, also have huge misgivings about their report; that the US Air Force lied to them, that the CIA withheld information from them ? Do you realise that the majority of victims family members are VERY unhappy about this report considering it did not answer most of the questions they put to the commission ?

Moreover, do you realise that for an investigation that was supposed to be a full accounting of the event, there are more than 100 documented lies, distortions and omissions within its pages ?
If the investigation was so thorough why did it completely omit mention of the collapse of the 47 storey World Trade Center 7 Building ? Why was evidence that contradicted the Government version of events, like Norman Mineta's testimony that completely contradicts Dick Cheney's account, left out ? Why was FBI translator, Sibel Edmond's 3 hours of testimony, indicating that US intelligence services had worked with Bin Laden right up until the attacks, left out ?

Why did the report refuse to address Mayor Giuliani's statement that he had received word that the World Trade Center Tower was going to collapse and that he never relayed this information to the police or fire departments at the time ?

There are so many problems with the report that it is not funny. The book is like a fairy story and should not be in the non-fiction section since it makes so many claims that are not supported by fact and/or only supported by hearsay evidence.

You need to think about restocking your sections dealing with the 911 murders with more appropriate material.