Wednesday, December 31, 7000

Permanent Top Post by JM Talboo and Steve W.

By JM Talboo and Steve W. people subconsciously make the mistake of only seeing the issues concerning 9/11 in black and white, as opposed to shades of gray. This is known as the black-or-white fallacy. In this case, the false dilemma is: 9/11 was either carried out by Al-Qaeda or it was "an inside job."

Just because the evidence suggests that rogue elements of US and other international intelligence agencies were involved doesn't mean bin Laden and Al-Qaeda hijackers weren't involved.

In the fight to uncover the truth about 9/11 we must contend with individuals and groups that distort, omit and lie about important details in order to defend the official narrative - the 911 truth debunkers.


The NORAD-stand-down, various whistleblowers, and physical evidence centered around the destruction of the 3 World Trade Center Buildings in New York, make a strong case that the attacks involved substantial inside help.

“I think it’s implausible to believe that 19 people, most of whom didn’t speak English, most of whom had never been in the United States before, many didn’t have a high school education, could have carried out such a complicated task without some support from within the United States”
Former Sen. Bob Graham on 60-Minutes 

We might be wrong about where we suspect this all leads, but the "debunkers" are wrong when many essentially argue that it's acceptable for 70% of 9/11 family members questions to have never been answered by the 9/11 Commission. So of course, most have no qualms about promises made to 9/11 family members being broken by the Commission to investigate all whistleblower claims, which a substantial amount of the public find highly-suspicious at minimum, with many regarding the evidence as suggestive of complicity to varied degrees.

The below link proves that many thousands of family members want a new investigation. Likely the amount of people killed that day is outnumbered by these 9/11 victim's family members.

[On the left side (above) is a video of WTC 7 collapsing. On the right side is a video of a controlled demolition.]

So it stands to reason, that these ilk feel the lack of air defense story is above scrutiny to the point that secrecy and rewards are warranted. So what if this tale consists of 3, or some contend 4, mutually contradictory versions of events and admitted lies. It makes perfect sense that the top officials from NORAD and the FAA received promotions, as opposed to having to provide documents with data that would prove that the jet fighters were acceptably responsive, given the past response time averages.

Unsurprisingly, the duh-bunkturds hate even the best of the "Loose Change" films, but loose ends are no biggie.

The Washington Post reported on August 2, 2006 that:
Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources... "We to this day don't know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us," said Thomas H. Kean, the former New Jersey Republican governor who led the commission. 'It was just so far from the truth. . . . It's one of those loose ends that never got tied."
So, if 9/11 didn't have an inside element, what's to stop such a scenario from taking place in the future when we get investigations that have attributes like these? 

It is therefore the purpose of this website to rebut the hollow claims of the so-called 911 truth "debunkers" and clarify what is known about the attacks for the benefit of those following the debate and also for the largely uninformed public. This site now features 9/11 truth related and not-so-related content. So please utilize our search feature (found also on the sidebar) to find a massive treasure trove of well-researched info on nearly every issue in the realm of 9/11 truth debate. 

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National Security Notice via Washington's Blog:

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Tuesday, June 19, 2018

UFO Stalked U S Aircraft Carrier for 4 Days

More UFO info leaks from the government to the people under Trump!

UFO Stalked U S Aircraft Carrier for 4 Days


Trump's plans for space travel could be game changer for NASA - "The Future of Humanity" author Dr. Michio Kaku on President Trump's new space directive:

“Space Force” Is The Start Of Trump Declassifying The US Secret Space Program - Full Show - Trump Launches Space Force As Globalists Attempt To Collapse Human Civilization:

Truth Teller's Radio Episode 13 - UFO Disclosure is Happening RIGHT NOW Under Trump:

Ancient Organics Discovered on Mars:

MSN / Snopes Caught In Blatant Lie Against Trump

MSN / Snopes Caught In Blatant Lie Against Trump

Sep 13, 2016 ... From Snopes: The claim that WABC-TV reported the actual death of Hillary Clinton during their 11 PM news broadcast on 11 September 2016 ...
Dec 21, 2016 ... Snopes Fact Checker Accused Of Fraud For Prostitute Embezzlement Scheme. Posted by JM Talboo · Snopes Fact Checker Accused Of Fraud ...
Nov 22, 2016 ... Debunking Snopes - Snopes Debunked. Posted by JM Talboo · https://www. at 3:32 ...
Dec 26, 2016 ... The Conservative Tribune reports, Well, here are a few well-checked facts for you … Snopes — neutral, reliable, trustworthy Snopes — is a ...
Dec 23, 2016 ... So I watched the movie Avatar yesterday, and I can't decide whether the movie is on our side, or whether its an anti-human, eugenics p.
Jan 2, 2018 ... Snopes Debunked On Claim That The New York Times Didn't Collude With Hillary Clinton - SNOPES DEBUNKED! CAUGHT LYING FOR ...
Jan 23, 2013 ... As the Snopes article says, made up quotes are often attributed to famous historical figures for political purposes. And we're supposed to be the ...

FAKE NEWS, FAKE PHOTOS, FAKE OUTRAGE - Photo of Caged Child at Border Exposed as FAKE, Toddler Used as Prop for Pro-Amnesty Protest


The latest coordinated effort by the media and their Democrat allies to damage President Trump’s administration in attempts to force him to sign an amnesty bill has taken form, as the media has turned to the tried and true propaganda strategy of using children to tug at the heartstrings of voters in attempts to force amnesty through Congress.
For the past week, the mainstream media has been churning out headlines claiming that President Trump is separating illegal immigrant children from their parents in holding facilities, comparing this enforcement of the law to everything from Nazi concentration camps to the internment of Japanese-Americans during World War 2.
It didn’t take long for Democrats and open borders advocates to share a supposed image of a crying migrant child in a cage on social media, causing the predictable outrage from the left at such conditions for children.
However, even mainstream media outlets like Snopes and CNN were forced to later admit that the picture of the crying child was staged, and took place during a protest against Donald Trump on June 10th.
Many respondents vented anger at the administration’s hardline immigration policies and encouraged people to retweet the photo. “Star Wars” actor Mark Hamill even tweeted — and later deleted — the picture along with the hashtag #UnAmerican.
Vargas also posted the image on Facebook, where it received almost 10,000 shares.
However, the picture was actually taken during a June 10 protest against White House immigration policies at Dallas City Hall, as first reported by fact-checking site Snopes.
Other Facebook photos from the protest, organized by the Texas chapter of the Brown Berets de Cemanahuac, a Latino advocacy group, show the same boy outside the cage as activists hold signs urging the White House to “stop separating families.”
Perhaps the media should be criticizing the open borders advocates for making this child cry in a cage just to try and enhance their political message. If they really cared about children, they would be criticizing using kids as props in a political protest, but I think we all know this isn’t about compassion, but rather it’s the latest in a long line of manufactured media hit pieces on President Donald Trump.
As you can see below, the child pictured behind the cage is doing just fine, was not even at the southern border and was simply being used as political propaganda.
Despite the fact this picture of the child crying in a cage was staged, the original photo was already shared tens of thousands of times, giving the media and Democrats exactly what they wanted. The tried and true strategy of spreading fake news and receiving significant exposure, then issuing a brief correction, appears to be alive and well.
In reality, the entire “children separated from parents at illegal immigrant holding facilities” is a manufactured crisis, as the very same policy was in effect under Barack Obama and previous administrations.
Recall that not long ago another picture went viral on social media, shared by former Obama speechwriter John Favreau, showing illegal immigrant children lying on mats behind a chain link fence, or cage, as the media would call it.
Social media users were quick to bash Trump for his “inhumane” treatment of children, but it didn’t take long for the truth to come out. The picture was taken in 2014 under the Obama administration, effectively having nothing to do with Trump and also proving that children have been being separated from their parents at the border for many years, yet the media never expressed any concern because it was occurring under their savior Barack Obama.
Several 2014 photos of detained immigrant children in cages went viral in May, and former Obama administration officials rushed to offer explanations.
The former Obama speechwriter Jon Favreau had even shared the images on Twitter, mistakenly believing they were taken during Donald Trump’s presidency.
The former officials doubled down on their criticisms of Trump’s immigration policies, and said the 2014 photos showed unaccompanied children the government had been attempting to place with family members.
On June 17, reporters toured a similar government holding facility in McAllen, Texas, where migrant families are separated from one another and held in cages.
The media dropped their criticism of the picture of an illegal immigrant child in a cage immediately after finding out it was taken under the Obama administration, showing their utter lack of compassion and proving once again their current outcries about children separated from their parents under Trump is occurring for no other reason than to damage the president’s image.
Despite the media and left claiming to care so deeply about these illegal immigrant children, they will move on to the next manufactured crisis as soon as they’ve juiced this one for as much political capitol as they feel they can benefit from. As soon as they develop a new “breaking headline” to attack Trump and conservatives with, all of the sudden the supposed plight of these children will go the way of Stormy Daniels, who is barely a byline in the mainstream media despite once being their daily champion against Trump.
Yesterday during a press conference, President Trump laid blame on the current situation at the southern border squarely on the Democrats, as many of them voted for the same immigration laws being enforced today.
“Immigration is the fault, and all of the problems we have been having, because we can’t get them to sign any legislation, I say it’s very strongly the Democrats fault. They’re obstructing. America will not be a migrant camp and it will not be a refugee holding facility. You look at what’s happening in Europe, you look at what’s happening in other places, we can’t allow that to happen in the United States, not on my watch.”
This statement undoubtedly angers the media and the Democrats, as they would love nothing more than the US to become a refugee/migrant camp since the vast majority of those migrants would eventually become lifelong Democrat voters.
Ironically, if the Democrats are really so concerned about parents being separated from their children, while also risking the lives of their children by smuggling themselves across the border illegally, then they should endorse President Trump’s border wall to prevent this “atrocity” from happening in the first place. What better way to keep families together than to prevent the parents from committing the crime of illegally entering a country, putting their children through the dangerous process of people smuggling and risking being separating once they illegally sneak into America?


Who’s lying about 9/11? Commentary on Jon Gold’s new book – by Erik Larson

In the aftermath of 9/11, those in power who failed to protect the US and defend the Constitution before 9/11 used the attacks as a pretext for suppressing rights and launching wars – and they still do. Those doing so have received public support, and increased authority and budgets from the Executive branch and Congress. Whistleblowers and witnesses pointing to false statements and other wrongdoing were silenced and punished, and still are. There were limited IG and congressional inquiries, and then the 9/11 Commission. All of the Commission’s members and half its staff had political, professional, personal and/or economic conflicts of interest. Its investigation and final report ignored or spun important evidence and witnesses, as well as the vast majority of the questions posed by the Family Steering Committee. Without the efforts by 9/11 families, there may not even have been the 9/11 Commission. A new book by by researcher and activist Jon Gold documents and examines all of this: We Were Lied to About 9/11: The Interviews.
Polls have found majorities of Americans believe US officials had warnings prior to 9/11 and ignored them. The 9/11 Commission documented ignored warnings, but it did not hold any individuals responsible in the US government that had been in a position to disrupt the plot. Instead, the Commission concluded, “We believe the 9/11 attacks revealed four kinds of failures: in imagination, policy, capabilities, and management.” [339]
Many Americans may believe the pattern of ignored warning signs and missed opportunities by key people in key agencies and offices may have been due to incompetence or laziness. Many may accept the Commission’s report as a harmless whitewash in the context of the larger issue of a ‘need’ to ‘win the war on terror’, or at least maintain ‘Full Spectrum Dominance’. Many Americans don’t know who’s currently President. Polls have found a third of Americans believe pre-9/11 warnings were ignored to justify and fund the permanent global war on terror and domestic surveillance state. That is how 9/11 has been used by Establishment media and politicians since 2001.
There are a large number of personal and expert critics of the 9/11 Commission and the Establishment’s general narrative about 9/11. Jon Gold, friend and fellow 9/11 researcher and activist, has assembled a thousand-page book from transcripts of over 30 of his podcast shows, “We Were Lied to About 9/11.” There are 30 different interview guests, including myself http://wewereliedtoabout911.comand Jon, also an expert on 9/11 issues.
Jon Gold has been an activist for 9/11 truth and justice from the early days following the attacks. He monitored and documented the work of the 2002 Joint Intelligence Committee Inquiry, the 2003-4 9/11 Commission, and the other government and media investigations. Since that time, he has worked alone and with others, online and in person, to raise awareness and get action on issues. His work has informed tens of thousands and inspired many to take action, while disturbing others in government and media who would prefer to let sleeping dogs lie about 9/11. Even after becoming partially paralyzed in 2013 he’s continued to fight for truth and justice, for the victims of 9/11, their loved ones, and all Americans and people of the world.
You will not find crazy ‘conspiracy theorists’ listed in the Table of Contents. You will find credible voices, people who are concerned about truth and justice, about our country and our Constitution. Government whistleblowers whose testimony contradicts the official narrative, like former FBI Agent Coleen Rowley, former NSA senior executive Thomas Drake, and former State Dept officer J. Michael Springman, who was head of the Jeddah, Saudi Arabia consular office. Outspoken family members of 9/11 victims, such as Lorie Van Auken and Bob McIlvaine, who watch-dogged the Commission and the Bush Administration. Researchers who documented and analyzed important evidence and exposed falsity in the official narratives, including Paul ThompsonNafeez AhmedRay Nowosielski and Peter Dale ScottJon also secured interviews with mainstream journalists critical of ‘9/11 conspiracy theories’ – Jonathan Kay, and Phil Shenon, whose own work also challenges the official narrative in some ways. Even former US Senator Bob Graham appears – the co-chair of the Joint Intelligence Committee Inquiry, who has said the JICI received evidence of Saudi Arabia responsibility for the attacks that was censored in its report and ignored by the Commission.
Jon interviewed me primarily about my work scanning and uploading the 9/11 Commission’s records at and 911datasets.orgI began this work shortly after the first portion of records wasreleased in 2009. Over 8000 files have been uploaded, some of which contain dozens or even hundreds of pages. These records have been analyzed and used as sources by many 9/11 researchers, including my colleague Kevin Fenton, who blogged these:
Significant discoveries include: Documentation of military exercises surrounding and intersecting the 9/11 events which were ignored in the Commission’s report. Documentation of many, many records yet to be disclosed, including an NSA retrospective on the attacks, as well as evidence of destroyed or ‘lost’ records. Documentation of interference in staff investigations by agency minders. Battles with agencies and the White House over access to documents. The name ‘Rich Blee‘; the chief of Alec Station (CIA Bin Laden unit), the man behind numerous pre-9/11 intelligence failures, in addition to being involved in Bin Laden’s escape at Tora Bora, and the Bush Administration’s rendition-to-torture program.
The 9/11 Commission had access to about 2.5 million pages, as well as audio, video, photographic and electronic data evidence. However, an unknown number of records were destroyed or withheld or ‘missing’. The Commission did not receive physical copies of many important agency records, and in some cases staff members were not even allowed to make notes about records they reviewed.
In the 2009 initial release, and at the time of my interview in 2014, about 2/3 of the Commission’s records still had not been processed for release by the National Archives, and they were only processing additional records on request. As the public has limited information about what records the Commission has, this makes requesting records difficult. And in 2018 the snail’s pace of release continues.
The third that had been processed were mostly Commission records; not the more primary, underlying agency records. And of the processed records, tens of thousands of pages were withdrawn; the records had been processed by the Archives, but not released to the public due to restrictions such as classification or privacy. With the Withdrawal Notice acknowledgement of a specific record’s existence, it’s possible to request release under FOIA, or Mandatory Declassification Review (MDR), if classified. I’ve submitted many records requests; many of these have been pending for years.
The public has far too little of the most important information about 9/11, that would shed light on critical questions such as, ‘What happened and who’s responsible?’ and, ‘How do we prevent future attacks from succeeding?’ For truth, justice and the sake of our Republic and Constitution, I support disclosure and accountability, and independent media and political candidates. I would support a 9/11 Truth & Reconciliation Commission. The failure of the US government and mainstream media to honestly investigate and report on 9/11 indicates a need for systemic change, as do the many other failings of the corporate-political Establishment.
This latest book Jon has put together (also see his first book, “9/11 Truther: The Fight for Peace, Justice and Accountability”) is an impressive compendium of informative perspectives revealing many, many fatal flaws in the official 9/11 story, and pointing to many specific individuals who should be investigated and held accountable for their actions. Individually, what we have to say is compelling grounds for a new, complete investigation into 9/11, as well as into many other related issues. Collectively, this book loudly screams for turning the US government upside down and shining a light into it.
Jon’s new book is an overwhelming tome of disturbing 9/11 info, but it’s important, free, online and downloadable, searchable and has useful navigation links. It’s a book made from interview transcripts, so there aren’t the sources for factual statements that concerned citizens might like to verify. However, Jon has helpfully included an appendix with links to supporting research for each chapter. Americans would do well to take heed. If not, some future AI will likely find it and put two and two together – along with the wealth of other credible information online on 9/11 that proves the official story is false. God, help us.