Showing posts with label conspiracies. Show all posts
Showing posts with label conspiracies. Show all posts

Sunday, October 12, 2014

Scientific study reveals conspiracy theorists the most sane of all

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(NaturalNews) If you're a conspiracy theorist, then you're crazy, right? That's been the common belief for years, but recent studies prove that just the opposite is true.

Researchers -- psychologists and social scientists, mostly -- in the U.S. and United Kingdom say data indicate that, contrary to those mainstream media stereotypes, "conspiracy theorists" appear to be more sane than people who accept official versions of controversial and contested events.

The most recent study was published in July 2013 by psychologists Michael J. Wood and Karen M. Douglas of the University of Kent in the UK. Entitled "'What about Building 7?' A Social Psychological Study of Online Discussion of 9/11 Conspiracy Theories," the study compared "conspiracist," or pro-conspiracy theory, and "conventionalist," or anti-conspiracy, comments on news websites.

The researchers noted that they were surprised to find that it is now more conventional to leave so-called conspiracist comments than conventional ones.

"Of the 2174 comments collected, 1459 were coded as conspiracist and 715 as conventionalist," the researchers wrote.

'The research showed that people who favored the official account of 9/11 were generally more hostile'

So, among people who comment on news articles, those who discount official government accounts of events like the 9/11 attacks and the assassination of John F. Kennedy outnumber believers by more than two-to-one. That means the pro-conspiracy commenters are those who are now expressing what is considered conventional wisdom, while the anti-conspiracy commenters represent a small, beleaguered minority that is often scoffed at and shunned.

Perhaps becoming frustrated that their alleged mainstream viewpoints are no longer considered as such by the majority, those who are anti-conspiracy commenters often showed anger and disgust in their posts.

"The research... showed that people who favoured the official account of 9/11 were generally more hostile when trying to persuade their rivals," said the study.

Also, it seems that those who do not believe in the conspiracies were not just hostile but fanatically attached to their own conspiracy theories as well. The researchers said that, according to the anti-conspiracy holders, their own theory of 9/11 -- one which says 19 Muslims, none of whom could fly commercial airliners with any proficiency, pulled off an amazing surprise attack under the direction of a man on dialysis (Osama bin Laden) who was living in a cave somewhere in Afghanistan -- is unwaveringly true.

Meanwhile, "conspiracists," on the hand, did not have to pretend to have a theory that completely explained the events of 9/11. "For people who think 9/11 was a government conspiracy, the focus is not on promoting a specific rival theory, but in trying to debunk the official account," the researchers said.

As reported by Veterans Today:

In short, the new study by Wood and Douglas suggests that the negative stereotype of the conspiracy theorist -- a hostile fanatic wedded to the truth of his own fringe theory -- accurately describes the people who defend the official account of 9/11, not those who dispute it.


A conspiracy theory about a conspiracy theory

The study also found that conspiracy believers discuss historical context, like viewing the JFK assassination as a precedent for 9/11, more than the antis. It also found that conspiracy believers do not like to be labeled as such.

These and other findings are contained in a new book, Conspiracy Theory in America, by political scientist Lance deHaven-Smith, which was published last year by the University of Texas Press. He explained why people don't like to be labeled as "conspiracy theorists."

"The CIA's campaign to popularize the term 'conspiracy theory' and make conspiracy belief a target of ridicule and hostility must be credited, unfortunately, with being one of the most successful propaganda initiatives of all time," he said.

He further noted that, essentially, those who use the term as an insult are doing so as the result of a well-documented, undisputed and historically accurate conspiracy by the CIA to cover up the JFK assassination.

Or not.

You be the judge.

Sources:

http://www.veteranstoday.com

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

http://conspiracypsychology.com

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Friday, November 19, 2010

Debunk This! 201 (NWO)

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Nov 19, 2010



A show for debunkers to do their thing as well as for the choir to have a reference point. So many people find it hard to believe that we are being Poisoned, tested on, lied to, that plans are documented to control and contain us as well as kill us by the powers that be. That indeed conspiracies exist and that not everyone who speaks of this is a nut job or else you would have to call yourself a nut job. Whether its O.J., Michael Jackson or 911, everyone speaks of conspiracies. This show isn't about why they do what they do, it's about the fact that it has and is being done: Therefore exists. This wont be a show covering hours worth of evidence. We will focus on an element or two to keep it simple, to the point.

Debunk This! Season 1 Double DVD -

http://www.spywitnessnews.org/content/debunk-season-1-dvd

REFERENCE LINKS:
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F4091EFD3D5D177A93C4A9178BD95F448485F9&scp=33&sq=%22New%20World%20Order%22&st=cse

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20A10FC38551B7A93C1A91782D85F428285F9&scp=31&sq=%22New%20World%20Order%22&st=cse

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FA0D12F73D5A147B93C5A8178DD85F468485F9&scp=28&sq=%22New%20World%20Order%22&st=cse

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/05/19/weekinreview/the-nation-the-task-slip-spies-into-the-new-world-order.html?scp=21&sq=%22New%20World%20Order%22&st=cse

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20A10FE3E5B147B93C0AB178DD85F458485F9&scp=1&sq=New+World+Order+Tokyo&st=p
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F10A1EFF355E13778DDDAC0894D9415B898FF1D3&scp=55&sq=%22New%20World%20Order%22&st=cse

http://www.cfr.org/projects/europerussia-nato-terrorism/study-group-on-new-world-order/pr286

http://www.cfr.org/iraq/-new-new-world-order/p12719

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Related Info:

Debunk This! Series

Debunk This! 008 ( 911 Conspiracy )

Debunk This! 202 (ChemTrails)

Debunking Myths on Conspiracy Theories

Tuesday, July 28, 2009

One of the worst hitpieces I have ever read...

This piece ranks up there with the History Channel documentary. My comments in blue.

My Argument with the 9/11 Truth Movement.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ben-cohen/my-argument-with-the-911_b_245788.html

After publishing a piece on the absolute idiocy of the Obama Birther movement and its potential to turn nasty, I've been inundated with literally hundreds of emails decrying my comparison of the Birthers to the 9/11 Truthers.

Associating us with the Birthers right from the word go. The way the media is talking a lot about these people is comparable to the way they talk a lot about moon-landing denial. Almost makes me think this whole Obama birth debate was created by the establishment to muddy the water, distract people from more serious issues and discredit serious conspiracies.

The offending paragraph:

The 9/11 truth movement was enormously helpful to the Bush Administration as it provided a giant distraction from the colossal crimes they committed in Iraq and Afghanistan. If their energies had been directed in a positive way, there's a good chance Bush would have been impeached and Dick Cheney thrown in jail. Alas, the 9/11 truth movement dedicated its time to proving the U.S government tried to kill thousands of its own people in exchange for gold/political power.

Enormously helpful? You give us too much credit! Because of all the media smearing we didn't really have anywhere near as much of an effect as we would have liked to. At least he acknowledges the fact that they are war criminals. Now tell me - If they're willing to kill millions of innocent people overseas for their own selfish agenda, is killing 3,000 of their own citizens really any more of a stretch?

The Birther movement can be compared to the 9/11 truth movement, perhaps not in scale, but certainly in its potency.

The emails I have received have made for an entertaining read. The absolute certainty with which otherwise fairly rational people have asserted that the U.S. government planned, carried out and covered up the horrific attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon has blown me away.

Of course. That's because it's obvious to anyone capable of critical thinking.

I have been accused of complicity with the attacks, called a 'traitor to the human race,' and a terrorist. This is an example of a typical email:

You're either a complete ignoramus (see PatriotsQuestion911 -- http://www.patriotsquestion911.com, and the peer-reviewed article about nano-thermite found in WTC dust samples -- Google it)...

...or a Mockingbird sayanim flak covering up for the Mossad's involvement (Dominick Souter, Urban Moving Systems, Odigo, Zim Shipping) and an accomplice after the fact to mass murder.

Consider yourself outed.

And that was one of the more polite messages sent by the 9/11 Truth Movement foot soldiers.

I guess that was to associate us with anti-Semites - typical. At least he mentioned the thermite paper.

Another theme that has come up over and over in the emails flooding my account are the 'facts' regarding 'Building 7'. I've skimmed some of them, and they mostly revolve around the idea that rich business men had insurance policies for the building that wasn't hit directly, and that it contained gold, and secret documents held by Enron, Exxon, and other evil corporations that helped orchestrate the attacks.

Actually most of us do not speculate WHY Building 7 was demolished. There are some theories - judging by the mysterious death of Barry Jennings it was probably something to do with those bodies - but most people just stick to proving that it was demolished.

In fairness, I have also received some polite emails suggesting I do more research on the subject before offering an opinion, but the majority have come from arm chair warriors spewing language that would make a sailor blush.

I have done some research on the topic, but stopped fairly quickly into when it dawned on me that:

"Stopped Fairly Quickly"? So you admit you did little research. It shows!

1. Any alternative to the official account of what happened is so absurd it simply cannot be true.

More absurd than this?

This blog continues below the images, click to enlarge...



Really?

2. No reputable scientific journal has ever taken any of the 'science' of the conspiracy seriously.

Because most "reputable" scientific journals are controlled. Just like the mainstream media. NIST is a "reputable" scientific organisation and they denied molten metal. Controlled Demolition Inc. is a "reputable" organisation and the head of the company is on record arguing that thermite CAN'T demolish a building but ordinary officer fires CAN!

3. The evidence supporting the official story is overwhelming, whereas the 9/11 Truthers have yet to produce a shred of concrete evidence that members of the U.S. government planned the attacks in New York and Washington.

HAHA! Really!? What evidence? The security camera image of Atta with two timestamps on? Al Suqami's passport that survived a 500 mile per hour plane crash, floated around in the air for 102 minutes and was found the next day amongst a million tonnes of rubble in perfect condition? The bag Atta was gonna take on the plane with him which contained his will for some reason which he conveniently left behind? The highly convenient paper trail? Bin Laden's mistranslated "confession" video? Bin Laden's chopped and dubbed over "confession" video? The video of some guy with a black beard who was obviously not Bin Laden? The testimony of tortured prisoners?

Overwhelming evidence indeed.

A couple of years ago, I went to court to testify in a case against someone who had committed a crime against myself and three other people. I won't go into detail, but the case against the defendant was pretty air tight. All four witnesses provided independent, stunningly similar accounts of the crimes the defendant had committed, and all four witnesses had been living in separate countries for the previous decade without any contact whatsoever.

Regardless, the defendant was found not guilty and released without charge. Why? Because the defense attorney alluded to the idea that we had orchestrated a complex conspiracy against the defendant in order to destroy his life. The defense did not provide any evidence of their own, but simply picked holes in the witnesses accounts, all of whom were recalling events from over 10 years before. It was a simple, yet incredibly effective strategy, and the defendant walked free. The 12 regular folks chosen randomly to be jurors failed to see through the tactic, and believed there remained 'reasonable doubt' that he had not committed the crime.

So "innocent until proven guilty" is a bad thing now is it? If some kids were to conspire to get you arrested on molestation charges and there was some inconsistencies in their testimony, you would be thanking god for "innocent until proven guilty".

And herein lies the ultimate weapon the 9/11 Truthers wield over your average 'Myth Busters' viewer: They don't have to prove a damn thing. They just have to raise enough doubt, pick enough holes, and use enough 'science' to make you think twice about the official theory.

What's wrong with that? Like I said "innocent until proven guilty". The burden of proof has been on the government to provide evidence of their conspiracy theory since day one. And there aren't just "holes" in the official story, there are entire voids!

It's the same type of intellectually bankrupt shenanigans the Bush Administration pulled when 'proving' the case for war against Iraq. They cherry picked evidence, ignored information that disproved their theory, and used a massive disinformation campaign to persuade people the Saddam Hussein was a reincarnation of Attila the Hun and the biggest threat to America since Adolf Hitler.

Yes they did. They also did that with 9/11. Willie Rodriguez believes he heard an explosion before the first plane hit. That evidence contradicts their theory, it was ignored. Barry Jennings testified to hearing explosions and stepping over bodies in Building 7. That evidence contradicted their theory, it was ignored. Numerous first responders testified to seeing molten metal at ground zero. That evidence contradicted NIST's theory, it was ignored... I could go on.

Given enough time and resources, you could prove that Barack Obama was in fact an alien invader from the planet Krypton, sent to earth to destroy America and turn everyone into slaves. I imagine you'd start with the whole Birther Movement nonsense, then move on to the fact that he alluded to it in a speech he gave when running for president.

I agree with that. In fact that pretty much sums up my view on Pilotsfor911truth, CIT and the No-planers. Speaking of...

The fact is, no one could have ever predicted what would happened to the World Trade Center when a two Boeing 767s were flown into it, because you couldn't exactly recreate the scenario in a laboratory. Science is often limited in its ability to predict, mostly because the real world doesn't conform to standards set in a lab. There are simply too many variables, and the best scientist recognize this and understand that their methodology is intrinsically flawed. While there have been planes flown into buildings before, nothing exactly like that had happened before, and no one really had any idea what would happen if it did.

There are so many variables at play, it is easy to pick holes in the official theory and claim that in fact what we saw (two massive passenger planes flying at high speed into a building) didn't actually happen.

The obligatory No-planer association!

The problem is, by all sane accounts, it did, and the alternative is so ridiculous, you'd have to be a moron to even entertain it.

I agree. So does everyone else in the 9/11 truth movement.

The Bush Administration was far too incompetent to pull off anything as complex as the attacks on 9/11, and to think that they could have covered it up afterward is even more absurd. What they did do was carry out and monstrously f--k up two illegal invasions of sovereign nations for oil. And thanks to the 9/11 Truth Movement, a considerable amount of attention was taken away from the people trying to hold the Bush Administration accountable.

O here we go again, "Bush was incompetent, there's no way he'd be able to orchestrate something this massive without getting caught" - They didn't orchestrate it! This goes well beyond left and right. Also they did not "monstrously f--k up two illegal invasions". The illegal invasions went exactly as planned.

The 9/11 Truth movement is fighting a pointless battle for a pointless cause. They have spent enormous amounts of time and energy on the matter, taking attention away from legitimate criticisms of the debacle and the ensuing blood bath that followed. And for that, they are the traitors, not me.

A pointless cause? The justice of three thousand families is not a good enough cause? The justice for the sick and dying first responders is not a good enough cause? The exposure of the lie that is the foundation of the world today and was used by US as an excuse to fight those illegal wars and commit all those war crimes you mentioned so many times is not a good enough cause?