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It's over eight years since the 9/11 attacks, but still there are a lot of people who say they have unanswered questions about what really happened that day. They tread a fine line - what is just harmless curiosity, and what is mocking the terrorist murder of 3000 Americans? To discuss this we are joined by Judas Goat of Citizens Against Questioning 9/11, caq911.blogspot.com, a grassroots organisation known for its simple message: Support our Government.
So, the study that the '9/11 truthers' say proves there was a conspiracy by our own government to carry out the 9/11 attacks, which was published in a scientific journal, claims to have found thermite amongst the wreckage of the World Trade Center. Is this credible to you?
Judas Goat:
Nothing done by these Jihadist supporters is credible. They actually purport to have found a make believe explosive variant of the incendiary that they call super-duper-uber-magico-nano-thermite. They say that if we are going to debunk their peer-reviewed paper (and this part cracks me up) that we have to do it with a peer-reviewed paper of our own! They claim that science has proceeded through peer-reviewed papers since the time of Sir Isaac Newton. But if this were true then why was the official government investigation conducted by the esteemed National Institute for Standards and Technology not peer-reviewed?! Troothers.
Moe King-Bird:
Now something I find when I am listening to what 9/11 truthers have to say, is they are not very consistent. They disagree and fight amongst themselves over whether there were planes, some even say the towers were brought down using, and I am not joking here, 'space lasers'. Is this something that is simply to be expected when dealing with conspiracy theorists?
Judas Goat:
Indeed, they have not formulated a coherent theory in the least. Whereas, the official account of the 9/11 attack has remained consistent. Now some of these people argue that things like "space lazers" and and "cartoon planes" are Trojan Horses, but horses aren't the problem here; birds of a feather that flock together are. In other words, they are all nuts. Twoofers.
Moe King-Bird:
I would also like your thoughts on the reasons 9/11 'skepticism' is quite widespread. Because with most theories like this, i.e., Elvis still being alive, their appeal is only to a fringe minority. But many people may have questions about 9/11, in fact a sound majority of people in numerous polls have said they feel the government has not told the full truth about the attacks. Countless '9/11 truth' books, films, and other items have been marketed, aimed at these people. Is there a danger here of some people simply spreading hype for selfish reasons?
Judas Goat:
Let's see here... (thumbing through the debunker's handbook) Ah! Here we are... People like conspiracy theories because they make sense out of an otherwise messy and coincidence filled world.
I must contest that the 9/11 conspiracy theory is a more popular theory than Elvis being alive. When Rep. Mike Thompson (Dem CA-1) was asked whether he thought 9/11 might be an inside job he informed the nutbar asking the question that “70% of the country thinks that Elvis is still alive.” I'm sure he did exhaustive research on this percentage.
And yes, these people are obviously doing this for selfish reasons. Conspiracy theory is an industry. The conspiracists argue that the distribution of their material on the internet for free largely exceeds their sales as a means to getting people brainwashed into believing their ideas. Clever marketing indeed. Bottom line is, if any money is made from this stuff it automatically disproves their theories. Troofers.
Moe King-Bird:
What was the cause of the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings? Because, and maybe it's just me, I saw huge planes hit those buildings. Are my eyes deceiving me? And, have the government reports provided enough proof to put the controversy to rest?
Judas Goat:
Your eyes did not deceive you and yes they have. Some of the nutters point out that WTC Building 7 also collapsed that day, but wasn't hit by a plane. However the government also explained this in August of 2008; their report states:
The collapse of WTC7 can be explained thanks to a recently discovered physical property of the universe that causes fire to intelligently seek out and destroy the one vital column that stops a building from imploding in on itself at the rate of gravity.They like to say "Ask Questions, Demand Answers," but then they never accept the answers. Toofers.
Moe King-Bird:
Thank you for joining us, that's what we need to know.
