Showing posts with label debunker lies. Show all posts
Showing posts with label debunker lies. Show all posts

Wednesday, June 6, 2012

RECAP: The 911 Debunkers' Debating Tactics

By "Truth Sleuth"

1. Dummy up. If it's not reported, if it's not news, it didn't happen.

2. Wax indignant. This is also known as the "How dare you?" gambit.

3. Characterize the charges as "rumors" or, better yet, "wild rumors." If, in spite of the news blackout, the public is still able to learn about the suspicious facts, it can only be through "rumors." (If they tend to believe the "rumors" it must be because they are simply "paranoid" or "hysterical.")

4. Knock down straw men. Deal only with the weakest aspects of the weakest charges. Even better, create your own straw men. Make up wild rumors (or plant false stories) and give them lead play when you appear to debunk all the charges, real and fanciful alike.

5. Call the skeptics names like "conspiracy theorist," "nutcase," "ranter," "kook," "crackpot," and, of course, "rumor monger." Be sure, too, to use heavily loaded verbs and adjectives when characterizing their charges and defending the "more reasonable" government and its defenders. You must then carefully avoid fair and open debate with any of the people you have thus maligned. For insurance, set up your own "skeptics" to shoot down.

6. Impugn motives. Attempt to marginalize the critics by suggesting strongly that they are not really interested in the truth but are simply pursuing a partisan political agenda or are out to make money (compared to over-compensated adherents to the government line who, presumably, are not).

7. Invoke authority. Here the controlled press and the sham opposition can be very useful.

8. Dismiss the charges as "old news."

9. Come half-clean. This is also known as "confession and avoidance" or "taking the limited hangout route." This way, you create the impression of candor and honesty while you admit only to relatively harmless, less-than-criminal "mistakes." This stratagem often requires the embrace of a fall-back position quite different from the one originally taken. With effective damage control, the fall-back position need only be peddled by stooge skeptics to carefully limited markets.

10. Characterize the crimes as impossibly complex and the truth as ultimately unknowable.

11. Reason backward, using the deductive method with a vengeance. With thoroughly rigorous deduction, troublesome evidence is irrelevant. E.g. We have a completely free press. If evidence exists that the Vince Foster "suicide" note was forged, they would have reported it. They haven't reported it so there is no such evidence. Another variation on this theme involves the likelihood of a conspiracy leaker and a press who would report the leak.

12. Require the skeptics to solve the crime completely. E.g. If Foster was murdered, who did it and why?

13. Change the subject. This technique includes creating and/or publicizing distractions.

14. Lightly report incriminating facts, and then make nothing of them. This is sometimes referred to as "bump and run" reporting.

15. Baldly and brazenly lie. A favorite way of doing this is to attribute the "facts" furnished the public to a plausible-sounding, but anonymous, source.

16. Expanding further on numbers 4 and 5, have your own stooges "expose" scandals and champion popular causes. Their job is to pre-empt real opponents and to play 99-yard football. A variation is to pay rich people for the job who will pretend to spend their own money.

17. Flood the Internet with agents. This is the answer to the question, "What could possibly motivate a person to spend hour upon hour on Internet news groups defending the government and/or the press and harassing genuine critics?" Don't the authorities have defenders enough in all the newspapers, magazines, radio, and television? One would think refusing to print critical letters and screening out serious callers or dumping them from radio talk shows would be control enough, but, obviously, it is not.

http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=2434&st=30
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Also in regard to the last point about flooding the Internet with agents. Often more than one debunker will attempt to misdirect the audience and put "peer" pressure on their opponent(s).

The debunkers will try to form a little consensus with one debunker playing dumb and then "eventually" agreeing with the points being made by the other debunkers. Of course there are certain individuals who are genuinely suckered into believing some of the misguided arguments put out by the disinformation trolls. The effect is the same.

Remember the truth about 911 is vitally important since it can end the endless war on terror. The establishment culture of committing and covering up crimes, plus other disasters, will end badly for us all. If you look towards the inaction over Fukushima, a disaster as bad or worse than Chernobyl, you can see where this is all headed.

Monday, February 1, 2010

Previously Unreleased Colorado Public Television Footage: 9/11 Press for Truth on KBDI Channel 12

Here is a ton of unreleased footage from KBDI's historic airing of the film 9/11 Press for Truth that I edited together for the Visibility911 YouTube channel. When this airing was first announced in May of last year our "debunker" friend Pat Curley over at the Screw Loose Change blog called KBDI "the kookiest PBS station in America." Yet somehow the airing of the film drew such huge support from Colorado Public Television viewers that several encore showings ensued. How could this be!? The film was just based on "crappy questions" from a few 9/11 family members according to Pat. And how come those questions didn't seem so crappy to the 80,000 who signed the New York City Coalition for Accountability Now petition? Well the way I see it is, there are either a whole heck of a lot of kooks out there, or Pat is the kooky one. You can take a wild guess which side of the fence I landed on. But if you are just super torn on this one, consider the other major source of information for the film and the "debunker" lies told about it.

"Debunking" Some "Debunker" Lies

Jon Gold
911blogger.com
08/18/2009

In the comments of this article, a lying "debunker" states, "don't trust the Terror Timeline; it's a wiki-style effort that can be edited by anyone and is thus contaminated with 'Trutherism'."

According to Kevin Fenton, a contributor of the Terror Timeline, "anybody can certainly register and attempt to edit it, but the edits aren't displayed to the public until they are approved by the editors, which is a significant difference with Wikipedia."

The "Complete 9/11 Timeline" is the LARGEST and MOST COMPREHENSIVE collection of information pertaining to the 9/11 attacks. BAR NONE.

And as 911blogger user "SnowCrash" pointed out:

"It must be a shock to find a comprehensive news compilation 'contaminated' with truth."











Related Info:

9/11: Press for Truth

In Their Own Words

9/11 Blueprint for Truth Debut on Colorado Public Television