“Errol Morris on Donald Rumsfeld, The Unknown Known, and
Evidence-Based Journalism”, by Nick Gillespie and Jim Epstein, was
released on April 3, 2014. The original writeup follows:
Donald Rumsfeld’s “war crime,” says Oscar-winning
filmmaker Errol Morris, is “the gobbledygook, the blizzard of words, the
misdirections, the evasions…and ultimately at the heart of it all…the
disregard and devaluation of evidence.”
The former secretary of defense’s complicated relationship with the truth is the subject of Morris’ new documentary, The Unknown Known, which opens in theaters nationwide on Friday, April 4.The Unknown Known is
an extended conversation with Rumsfeld, tracing his long career through
the Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and Bush administrations, and focusing on his
role in leading U.S. military forces into Iraq to fight a bloody and
senseless war.
In the film, Morris engages in a verbal sparring session with
Rumsfeld in an effort to break through the linguistic “evasions” and
“gobbledygook” for which he’s known.
The title of the film comes from Rumsfeld’s response to a question by
NBC reporter Jim Miklaszewski at a Pentagon news conference on February
12, 2002. When Miklaszewski asked Rumsfeld if there was any evidence
that Iraq was supplying terrorists with weapons, Rumsfeld replied:
Reports that say that something hasn’t happened are
always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns;
there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns;
that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there
are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don’t know we don’t know.
In a four-part series in The New York Times titled
“The Certainty of Donald Rumsfeld,” Morris wrote: “Many people believe
Rumsfeld’s reply was brilliant. I think otherwise.”
The Unknown Known is Errol Morris’ 10th documentary feature.
He’s also the author of two best-selling books and the director of over
1,000 TV commercials. Much of Morris’ work explores, as he puts it,
“how people prefer untruth to truth” and how they’re “blinded by their
own spurious convictions.”
Reason TV‘s Nick Gillespie sat down for an extended chat with Morris about The Unknown Known.
They discussed, among other things, the difference between Rumsfeld and
Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, whose complicated relationship
with his own mistakes is the subject of Morris’ Oscar-winning film, The Fog of War; Morris’ take on the Jeffrey MacDonald murder case, which was the subject of his book, A Wilderness of Error; how Obama compares to Bush; his friendships with Roger Ebert and Werner Herzog; and why “we’re all morons.”
Gillespie conducted the interview using an “interrotron,”
a device Morris invented, which projects an interviewer’s face over the
camera lens. It creates the impression that the subject is looking
directly into the eyes of the viewer.
About 41 minutes.
Shot and edited by Jim Epstein
